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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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ELECTION. Reports, 1837- 8— continued. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS— continued. It.— 4. In Longford— continued. was conducted, Courtenay 6592- 6596 Persons have been admitted to the register 011 the production of pieces of paper pasted on bits of newspapers, in which neither the name of the lessor nor lessee, rent, tenure, or execution appeared, Courtenay 6811 — 68 16 Claimants have been repeatedly rejected who have produced old leases in which neither the rent reserved, or the stamp affixed, could be ascertained, and who have at a subsequent session been admitted, Gardiner 7960- 7962 At the first registry in Longford after the Reform Bill, persons were admitted to be registered as voters on the Conservative side who had a much inferior qualification, as to value, than those who were rejected on the Liberal side, Flood 8194- 8197. 8156- 8329. The statement that witness registered those on the Conservative side who had not half the value of those rejected on the Liberal side, is unfounded, Fosbery 12948- 12950 — Extract from the Repealer newspaper, respecting the opening arid conducting of " the registry court there ; the same system as regards the conduct of the business was pursued 011 all the court days, Fosbery 12978- 12983 The claimants on the Liberal side dis- played great dexterity and address in shaping their evidence so as to enable them to register; different modes employed, Fosbery 13088- 13101 Great anxiety evinced 011 both sides to bring up voters, and place them on the register, Fosbery 13101.13123, 13124.13170,13171. * Very little objection made by the Liberal party'at the registration in 1832, Flood 8368- 8370 Not the same number of objections made to the persons coming up to register on the Conservative side that was made to those on the Liberal side, Nicholis 10383- 10385 The opposition was greater on the Conservative than the Liberal side at the registry in 1832 ; it was also better arranged, and their agents were more nume- rous, Ternan 10814- 10824.10915,10916, Rooney 11179, 11180 There were quite as many objections taken 011 the Liberal as on the Conservative side in Longford, Fosbery 12969- 12971 Both parties were equally zealous in objecting to claimants that came up to be registered, Fosbery 13125, 13126. 13172- 13176. The Conservative party examined into every claim, though they did not bring up witnesses in opposition, Flood 9321- 9328 The claims on both sides were entered into with great minuteness and strictness in 1832, Rooney 11177- 11186 Not so many objections on the Liberal as the other side, Rooney, 11179, 11180 Witness did not register persons out of their turn, except by consent of the respective agents, Fosbery 12974- 12978 At the registration the names are called alphabetically, and no person whose name does not appear in the list can register, Courtenay 13274- 13283 Manner in which the claimants for registration were divided, after the two courts were established, Courtenay 13361- 13367. III. Objections to the present System of Registration : 1. Generally. The present system of registry produces a great deal of agitation; an annual registra- tion much more desirable, or at all events the barristers should have the right of seeing whether the qualification still existed, Fosbery 13161- 13167. 13199- 13209. 2. In Cork. Registration sessions in the city and county of Cork, since the Reform Bill; some persons have had to go to Kanturk to register, Bernard 86- 92 The expense of going to Kanturk to register is unnecessary, and greatly complained of, Besnard 112- 117 Frauds that may be committed in the registration at Cork, Besnard 6271- 6274 The present mode of registration tends to the creation of fictitious votes, Meagher 3923- 3925 Great difficulty would be experienced, by parties wishing to oppose the registration of claims, from the present vague description of the property out of which they intend to register, Deeble 5243- 5261 Great number of persons, residing upon the same denomination of land, who register as if they lived at different places, Deeble 5470 There is no effectual check upon persons who choose to present themselves, and swear that they have sufficient value to register, Barber 6055, 6056 Instances of persons residing on the same ploughlands, who register under a different name, Deeble 5948- 5908. ° 3. In Longford. The system of creating fictitious votes has been increasing of late years, and, under the present system of registration, the evil will extend, Courtenay 6796, 6797 There was no necessity for sending another registering barrister in 1832 10 Longford ; Mr. Fos- bery could have completed^ the registration within the time, Courtenay 13350- 13355—— Evidence respecting the facilities afforded to the Conservative party, at the registration in 1832, of getting their friends into court, Nicholls 10621- 10676 The registering barrister ( Mr. Fosbery) has repeatedly ordered the side of the court where the popular portion stood to be cleared, while the other side would be let remain, Nicholls 10625- 10628. 10669- 10676 The assertion made bv Mr. Nicholls, that witness interfered to 643. k 3 get
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