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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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Ireland.] ELECTION. 25 Reports, 1837- 8— continued. Daly, Richard. ( Analysis of his Evidence)— continued. Witness acted as secretary to the Liberal club, and as such made most minute exa- mination into the qualification of claimants for whom notices had been served, 1^ 228- 15237 Former opinion of witness that if there had been six months' possession, al- though the lease was executed on the day the claimant came to register, that was suffi- cient to entitle him to register, 15248- 15260 Witness's test of value is what the land is - actually worth to the claimant, over and above the rent reserved by the lease, 15296- 15325 • Land contiguous to a town will let at 4 I. an acre, 15298, 15299 From the great competition for land in Ireland, persons would be found to give more for it than what it was intrinsically worth, 15311- 153- 6 Lands in King's County ai; e generally let under the marketable value, 15326- 15331 The evidence produced by the opposing party, as regarded the value of the claimants' land, was of so vague and unsatisfactory a nature, that no judge could entertain it against the franchise, 15346- 15368. Opinion of professional men in Ireland that in the majority of cases the inspection of the title- deeds is withheld by the registering barristers, 15375 No subject in the profession that is liable to so much discrepancy of swearing as a man's opinion of the value of land, 15376, 15377 Further evidence respecting the arrangement made as to the non- inspection of title- deeds by the opposing parties, and manner in which acquiesced in by the Conservative agents, 15404- 15415 Supposed number of bad or fictitious votes on the register for King's County, and evidence thereon, 15428- 15435 Case of Mr. Forbes and Mr. Wetherelt, 15436- 15477 Not the same means of ascertaining the beneficial interest in a lease as there is in the case of land, 15465. [ Second Examination.]— Names of rentchargers who are considered by witness as fictitious votes for King's County, 15478- 15493. 15548- 15555 The provisions of the Reform Act, and also the old law, afford an opening for the creation of fictitious votes; manner in which it affects fifty- pound freeholders, 15494- 15500. 15537- 15542 The registering barristers never refused to receive evidence of the want of title ol the landlord of the person who claimed to register; they refused to allow an illegal cross- examination, 155C2- 155° 9 The majority of leases produced were in the common printed form usually supplied by the stamp- offices in Ireland, 15510- 15514 Mr. Hovvley rejected a man whose lease contained a non- alienation clause, 15513- 15518 It is improper to invalidate the title of the landlord upon cross- examination, though it is not necessary for the landlord's title- deeds to be produced, 15519- 15536 The majority of fifty- pound freeholders in the King's County are of the Conservative party; in the lists the rentchargers are not distinguished from the twenty- pound freeholders with sufficient accu- racy, 15543- 15547 Mr. Gibson did not admit any claimant who had been previously rejected without some variation of value or other circumstance being adduced before him, 15556- 15560 Statistical account of the King's County in relation to the number of taxable acres, population, and persons registered, 15561, 15562. Daly, William. He was rejected in 1826 for King's county, from want of title; he had applied to his landlord for his lease, who refused to give it him; he had been 13 years in possession ; the original lease was granted to his father, Daly 15143. Damages to Property. See Advances to Voters. Damery, Thomas. Labourer, Clarence- street; registered for Cork, in October 1832 ; does not appear in any of the valuations, Lane 754. Danckirt, John. Admitted to the freedom of Cork in right of birth; he was apprenticed to a deputy postmaster; he voted at the last election, Meagher 4947, 4948. Davis, John. Chapman and dealer, Kyrl's- street; registered for Cork, 24th November 1832 ; he is valued at 5Z. in 1828, Lane 922. Dayly, Patrick. Bookseller, Paul's- street; registered for Cork out of house in 1835; the house is valued at 16/. in 1828; he occupies only part of it, Lane 932- 937. Deady, Michael. Shopkeeper, Market- street; registered for Cork, in September 1835; he is valued at 5/. in 1828, Lane 922. Deeble, Benjamin. ( Analysis of his Evidence).— Collector of city rates for the liberties of Cork for 17 years, 5219- 5224 Extent of the North and South liberties, 5232- 5235 Number of different denominations of lands in those liberties, 5236, 5237 Great difficulty would be experienced by parties wishing to oppose the registration of claims, from the vagueness of the description of property ; more time should be allowed for that purpose, 5243- 5261 Evidence respecting certain parties who appear on the register, the situation of whose property witness is not acquainted with, 5262- 5352. 537^- 5457 ( Mr. Colburn.) Certificates of registration are always filled up according to the notice given by the party claiming, 5354- 5358 ( Mr. Deeble.) Stating the name of the parish in the affidavit would " be attended with advantage, 5359" 536I Case of Bartholomew Fitzgerald, and evidence respecting his circumstances, 5362- 5377 - A great number oTpersons residing upon the same denomination of land register as if thev lived at different places, 5470 Extent of the denomination of land known as 643. d Carrigrohan;
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