V 316 M I N U T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T H E T. Courtcnay, Esq. 13474. You have nothing to do with the Sligo property ?— No. — 1347 5. You cannot tell whether that proclamation was genuine ?— I suppose 12 June 1838. it was. 13476. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] Have you a copy of the proclamation ?— I could get a copy of it. . . , 13477. YOU state that there have been murders perpetrated in that county lately / have there been any other outrages connected with attacks upon the person in that county ?—' Yes. 1 13478. Have there been attempts at assassination ?— I here have. 1 3479! Have there been many ?— I heard of two or three lately ; one particu- larly, a gentleman of the name of Ellis. 13480. Did you hear that he was fired at in the noon- day ?— I did. 13481. Did you hear that there were 50 persons present on that occasion?— I heard that there were a great many persons present; I heard there was a crowd of persons. 13482. Did you hear that most of those persons were his own tenants who were present upon the occasion when he was fired at?— I did. 13483. Was he wounded ?— He was. 13484. He was not killed ?— No. 13485. Did you hear that attempts were made to get at the perpetrators of that outrage committed in this way in the noon- day in the presence of that crowd of people?— I did not. 134S6. Mr. O'ConnelL] Have not the magistrates and police been active for the purpose?— I did not hear any particulars. 13487. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Did you hear that persons were taken and brought before the magistrates, and examined upon oath, in order to endeavour to get at information about the attempt to murder?— Yes, I heard that persons were brought before the magistrates and examined. 13488. Did you hear that all those persons denied knowing anything about the matter ?— I did. 13489. Have there been any other cases where persons have been nearly beaten to death in that county latterly ?— Yes, I heard of another instance ; a man of the name of Plant was seriously beaten and injured in coming home from a market or fair lately. 13490. Howr long ago is that ?— Six or eight weeks ago. 13491. What was supposed to be the cause of the attack upon him?— It was attributed to his being in the service of Lady Ross, and being a voter, I believe. 13492. Did you hear of any attack upon a person of the name of Dymond ?— I did, two attacks upon Dymond ; he is a tenant of Lord Lorton. 13493. Was he much injured?— So much so that he will never be the same man again that he was. 13494. Was his life in jeopardy?— It was; I thought he would not recover when i saw him in the infirmary in Longford. 13495. How long ago is that?— The last attack is a year ago. 13496. Has he been maimed for life?— He has. 13497. What was the cause of that attack?— He is living upon the Ballinamuck estate, and a Protestant. 13498. Do you know of any attack upon a person of the name of Moorcroft?— He was one of the murdered men. 13499- What was the cause of that murder?— He was upon the same estate. 13500. Was there no other ground ?— I believe not, but that he was a Protestant tenant upon that estate. 13501. Mr. O'Connell.] Did he succeed an outgoing tenant?— He was there since 1835. 13502. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Have any persons been brought to justice for any of those outrages that have been so perpetrated?— There was another murder upon that estate, where the men were tried, of a man of the name of Brock. 13503. How long ago is that?— I think it was in 1S35. 13504. What was the cause of the murder of that man ?— I suppose the same cause ; that he was a Protestant residing upon that estate. ' 3505- Were those men who have been so murdered and attacked men of bad character; were they men that had committed any outrage of any kind ?— Certainly not; they were men of most excellent character, 13506. Brock particularly; was he a man of remarkably good character ?— He was