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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 310 M I N U T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T H E T Courtenay, Esq. 13319. Did it appear to you that in consequence of this great excitement many men were induced to step forward to attempt to have their names put upon the 12 June J 838. register, who would not otherwise have done so ?— It is my impression that many persons came forward under the excitement that would not otherwise have done so. 13320. Persons not having a bona fide qualification ?— Persons not duly quali- fied. ' . , , 13321. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Was there any arrangement made with the police, or any other persons whatsoever, to obstruct what is called the Liberal party in their access to the registering court ?— I think not. 13322. Were you privy to any such?— Certainly not. 13323. Were you aware of any such ?— No, 1 was not. 13324. Did you see anything that would give colour to the allegation that there was a preference given to one party, to give them access to the court, to the exclusion of the other party ?— Certainly not. 13325. Mr. O'Connell.] Might not the opposite party have quite a different feeling ?— They might; but I am quite sure they were four to one. 13326. But not the police?— Not the police. 13327. The police were on your side ?— The police were in court. We did not claim them more than the other. 13328. Were not thev inclined to your side ?— I could not, from observation, say that they were inclined for one side more than the other. 13329. Or from what vou heard?— No; I did not hear anything that would justify me in such an opinion. 13330. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Did it appear to you that they gave perfectly fair play to the other parties in regard to obtaining access to the court?— I think so. 1333 Mr. Curry.] You had no reason to complain of them, at all events? — No ; I do not think any party had a right to complain of them. 13332. Mr. O'ConnelL] You praise them?— No, I do not praise them. I think they did their duty, and nothing more. 13333. Mr. Lefroy.] Will you look at question 10625. It is said in the answer to that question, by the witness Mr. S. Nicholls, " I have heard the barrister fre- i quently say, ' Clear that side of the court," and that was the side of the popular portion, whilst the others would be let remain where they were, and that part of the court would be cleared out " ?— I never heard any such thing. 13334. Mr. O'Connell.] Did you see it?— Nor see it. 13335. Was not your side more quiet than the other?— They came to our side as well as their own. 13336. Were your party very quiet, or were they troublesome ?— I do not think they were troublesome. 13337- Do not }' ou think they were quiet?-— They were quiet. 13338. Was the opposite party as quiet?— They were more numerous, a great deal. 13339- Were they as quiet as you ?— Upon the whole, I suppose they were. 13340. Mr. Lefroy.] Did the barrister exercise that great partiality which is there described, with respect to directing one side of the court to be cleared rather than the other ?— No, he did not. 13341- Vou have already stated that there was no foundation for the charge, that the assistant barrister afforded one party a greater facility in getting in their friends than the others?— No foundation whatever. 13342. Mr. O'Connell.] You had every facility given you that you wanted?— With the exception of occasional crowds; when the people would crowd in to my side, I could not get my men in as fast as I wished. 13343- But the assistant barrister did the best he could for you ?— He did as much for one side as the other. 13344- Did he do the best he could for you to get you reasonable accommoda- tion ?— I do not think he did anything particular. 13345- Have you any complaint to make of him upon that subject ?— No, I have I think he registered men that he ought not upon that subject. 13346. Have you upon any subject? to have rejected. 13347- Mr. Lefroy. | And you did complain of his conduct in that respect upon two petitions ?— I did. 3348. Mr.
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