1 SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 6919. Mr. O'Connell.] What was the proportion of Tories and Reformers upon T. Courtenay, Esq. that Committee ?— I believe they were five and five. — 6920. Then that vote was decided by the chairman giving a double vote ? 27 March 1838. I do not know. I am sure that in many instances the Committee were more than half; but I cannot say as to this particular vote ; I have no means of knowing. 6921. Mr. French.] You state that you find considerable difficulty in ascer- taining who an individual is, from the list of the claimants published; then, in answer to the next question, " Is not the farm named ?" you say, " The townland is named ;" do you think that that answer informed the Committee of all the assistance that you had to discover who the individual was?— I might have gone more accurately into describing if I had been asked, by saying that it stated whether he was a farmer or a yeoman, or what he was. 6922. Might you not have told the Committee, that the parish and the barony were named as well as the townland ?— I might, but I thought I was going closer to the information required to state the townland. 6923. You are aware that it would be no information at all to state the town- land, inasmuch as there are numerous townlands in different parts of the county of the same name ?— There may be, but the barony is indispensable. 6924. Are not the parish and the barony both indispensable ?— I think the parish is not, but I am certain that the barony is indispensable. 6925. Will you refer to the schedule of the Act, and state whether one column is not the parish ?—[ 77ie Witness referred to the Act.] On looking to the form of the notice in schedule ( C.), No. 2, I do not consider that the parish is indis- pensable. 6926. Will you refer to the clause of the Act, and see whether it does not require the parish ?— I think not; I think the barony is sufficient. 6927. Chairman. J There is nothing in the body of the Act which specifies what shall be required ; the 15th section merely says that the notice shall be given in writing, and does not specify what shall be contained in that notice ?— It requires the barony wherein the property to be registered is situated to be stated. 6928. But it does not specify so particularly as in the schedule?— No, it does not; 1 think the schedule is a better guide; schedule ( C.), No. 2, which is the form of the notice. My view of it is borne out by the 15th section. 6929. Mr. Lefroy.] In point of practice what is put in?— In point of practice, the townland and the barony are put in, and not the parish ; I never thought it necessary to put in the parish, and I have not failed in any notice in consequence of the want of it. 6930. Chainnan.] Has it been the custom in the county of Longford to put in the parish as well as the barony ?— No. 6931. On neither side?— No, we conceive the townland and the barony to be sufficient. 6932. Have the party opposed to you sent in their claims in the same form almost as yours, so far as omitting the parish?— They have, so far as omitting the parish. 6933. Can you put in any newspapers containing notices ?— No, I have none with me. C934. Mr. O'Connell.] Is there any newspaper published in the county of Longford r— Not now ; there was some time ago. 6935. What was it called ?-— The " Longford Journal." 6936. Was it on your side or the other ?— It was a Conservative paper. 6937. Mr. French.] You state, that under this law of registering the certificate without the claimant being produced, a son succeeding his father can re- register, get a new certificate, and go and vote ; do you mean without being registered for six months prior ?— No; we look upon it that all claimants must be registered six months before. 6938. A son succeeding his father is not obliged to be registered six months before ?— If he takes it by a will, it is not requisite that he should be six months in possession before he registers, but he must be registered six months before he can vote. 6939. In answer 6885 you state that the new certificate will give the man a right to appear upon the register; it is presumed that you mean, the man whose certificate it purports to be ?— Yes. 6940. Lie is obliged to make oath at the election, that he is the person named in the certificate ?— He is not called upon so to do. 643. D 4 6941. You