V 270 M I N U T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE Rev. E. M'Gaver. June 1838. - No, that was to so with his landlord when he thinks him right, nor should he go with the clergyman unless he thinks him right. We have instances where the clergyman is wrong, and then, if the voter is of a different opinion, he ought to consider what is the general feeling, for when they put the whole together they will judge more safely than if they take a select few. 12832. Mr. Lefroy. J Have you any objection to let the Committee have the letter you alluded to in answer to question 12194 ?— I have no objection. [ The Witness was directed to produce the same, but afterwards declined to do so.] 12833. Chairman.] In answer to question 12213, you say you have a list of persons turned off Lord Lorton's estate?— Yes. 12834. Have you that list ?— Yes. [ The Witness produced the same.'] Here is the list I have, but it does not give the entire; it gives three or four cases. When the statements were given to us we laid them before the magistrates, and the magistrates refused to take them, on the ground that it was irregular to do so ; and these statements ( which they were ready to swear to) I will submit to the Committee. 12835. Is that the statement you sent to the newspapers ?- three years ago. 12S36. You never sent that to any publication ?— No. 12837. Mr. Lefroy.] What is that paper you now produce?— It is an answer, as far as I am able to give it, with regard to the compensation given by Lord Lorton to tenants on his property, when the parties were dispossessed. 12838. Mr. Curry.'] Does that paper contain a statement of the compensation given to the several persons who were dispossessed by Lord Lorton ?— It does not tell the whole numbers ; there were various persons dispossessed, and these four persons state as far as they have been compensated themselves, and the compensation they believe was paid to others. [ The same was delivered in, and read as follows:] Patrick Murphy, a Roman- catliolic, states, that he held a small farm 011 the lands of Fardrummin, the property of Lord Lorton, for 18 years; that he always paid his rent punc- tually, but having heard that he would be turned out, did not pay the last half- year's rent due. His farm was given to Arthur Cathcart and Robert Wiggins, Protestants. Wiggins and Cathcart were always residents of the county of Longford. Deponent never heard that they were weavers; never knew them to have a weaving loom, which they could not have without his knowledge. Deponent further states, that 28 Roman- catholic families were turned off the said Fardrummin since the year 1831; that no Catholic tenant was, since that period, appointed to these farms, but that Protestants exclusively were appointed to them ; that these Protestant tenants were always residents of the county of Longford, with the exception of Brock, who resided some few years in the county of Cavan, but was a native of the county of Longford. Deponent further states, that the Catholic tenants who were ejected from said Fardrummin were solvent tenants. Deponent received no compensation for quitting his farm, nor would he take a compensation of 301, and voluntarily quit it. Deponent is ready and willing to verify this statement on his oath.— John Kenny, a Roman- catholic, states, that he was a tenant on the lands of Fardrummin, the property of Lord Lorton, during a period of 20 years; that he built a suitable farm- house and farm- offices; that his grandfather and father resided on the lands he held; that he improved these lands by gravel and other manures; that he was always a solvent tenant, and paid his rents punctually ; that he was turned out of his house and farm in 1835. That in consequence of a promise made to him by Thomas Courtnay, Lord Lorton's agent, that he should be con- tinued as a tenant, he tilled and sowed his farm; that he was, when turned off his farm, allowed only 11. 10s. for seed and tillage, 31. for his house, and about 51. 10s. for giving peaceable possession, but that he would not voluntarily quit his farm and house for three times that amount, but knowing that he would be ejected, he was pleased to receive any compensation. Deponent's lands were given to John Morrisson, a Protestant, and a resident of the county of Longford, a very poor and needy man. Deponent never heard that Morrisson was a weaver, nor that any other of the Protestant tenants who were appointed to the farms on Lord Lorton's estate, from which the Catholic tenants were ejected, had been weavers.— John Gormly, a Roman- catholic, states, that he and his father held about 12 acres of the lands of Fardrummin, the property of Lord Lorton, for nearly 50 years; that they always paid their rents punctually, erected comfortable farm- house! and offices, and improved their lands by lime, gravel, and other manures, and planted about 3,000 quickset plants; that deponent was ejected from his house and farm since 1832. That before he was ejected, Thomas Courtnay, Lord Lorton's agent, told deponent that he, deponent was one of the chosen men in his ( Courtnay's) book for a lot of the land, but that deponent should first give up possession of his house and lands, and that, notwithstanding this promise, deponent was turned off his land and houses, and not since appointed as a tenant to them; that Robin Wiggins, a Protestant, was since appointed as tenant to the lands from which deponent was ejected. That said Wiggins is not a weaver, and had been always