SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 215 from them altogether, and he would not get leave. He was kept from that till, I Rev. E. ATGaver. think, Thursday; then there was an application made to the assessor to send a military escort to bring him from Carryglass. 29 May 1838. 12312. Who made the application?— Mr. Lefroy s friends ; they got an escort and brought him back to Sutcliffe's. The assessor and the sheriff were asked by our friends to interfere, and let them at liberty; they said they would not do that, but that when they were put upon the table, it would be all removed from them, and they would be left to vote as they pleased. When they were put upon the table, both Jordan and M'Ghee voted for UP. We then asked, as there were others confined in Foxhall, inasmuch as the others got a military escort to go to Carry- glass, that they would give us the same privilege of a military escort to take the men out of Foxhall, who were ready to make oath that they would vote for the Messrs. Whites if they got out. I know that one of them, named Farrell, whose son made an oath that he had it from his father, who made a declaration that he would vote for the Whites if he could get out. The assessor said, that he could not think of sending the military, but if Mr. Whites agent would go there and find it for himself, he would make up his mind. There was a Mr. Ternan, whose father was formerly agent to Mr. White; he was asked on the part of Mr. White to go, and the clergyman of the parish, Mr. Kennedy, went with him ; but other gen- tlemen left Longford after their going, and got to Foxhall before Mr. Kennedy or Mr Ternan had got there, and Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Ternan would not be allowed to speak to the persons. They came back, and the consequence was, that this man Ferrall, and a man named Ward, and one or two other men, were not brought to Longford at all, nor did they vote at all. 12313. Mr, O'Connell.] They were kept away altogether?— They were. 12314. Had you any reason to know, besides the affidavit of the son, that they were kept against their will ; did you ever talk with any of them themselves?— Ward died since ; it was considered that he was so sorry for this, that he died of a broken heart; even his wife died since. 12315. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.~\ Also of a broken heart?— I should think so. I had a conversation w ith his wife on the morning of his being taken off and brought down by Mr. Fox and Mr. Linen, a magistrate, and Mr. Crofton, and some others ; they came on Saturday night and took him off; they had fire- arms with them ; they brought him to Foxhall, and kept him till the election was over. I had it from the wife of Ward. On Monday morning I saw a crowd of people on the road talking of what had taken place, and I met the wife of Ward, and she said that Mr. Fox came there the previous day, and that her husband concealed himself from him ; that he afterwards sent his servant with a jaunting car, but that he did not go with him ; and that afterwards he himself came with those persons, and took him in the car to Foxhall until the election was over. 12316. With an armed party?— Yes. 12317. Mr. Serjeant Jackson^] Did the man tell you this?— I never saw the man before he died, but the woman told me this. 12318. And then she died?— I stated that I went one Monday morning in passing along the road, and that there I met the wife of Ward, and I asked her, and she told me what I have now stated. 12319. Chairman.'] Was the sheriff at that time friendly or hostile to Mr. Fox? — The sheriff was a Liberal. 12320. The sheriff, if he had any political impression, was on the side of Messrs. White ?— I think so. 12321. Who was the sheriff?— Mr. Tuite. 12322. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] The man, you say, died of a broken heart?— That is the feeling I have ; I had it from the clergyman. 1 2323. Did any medical man attend him ?— I do not know. 12324. Is he a tenant of Mr. Fox ?— Yes, it is a joint property ; Mr. Fox has a portion of it. 12325. Had you been in communication with this man before he was taken off in the manner you describe?— Not at the last election; he was a man that always voted 011 the Liberal side. 12326. Did the clergyman who spoke to you about him, tell you that he had seen him previous to the election ?— He must have seen him. 12327. Did he say that he had seen him upon the subject of his vote No, he said he would not be let in when he went to Foxhall. 643. 11 12328. Had