SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. > 2.5 6759. How many votes were objected to before that Committee for want of qualification in point of value ?— Two hundred and forty. 6760. How many of those were inquired into before " the Committee?— Ninety- two. 6761. How many of them did the Committee decide upon?— They decided 92 to be bad out of the 240. 6762. Mr. O'Connell.] Did they decide any against you ?— Yes, about 16. 6763. Chairman.] How many cases did you go into ?— There were a good many cases put up, but as we were not able to prove the service of notice, or upon some formal objection, the Committee decided against entering upon them. 6764. How many cases, into the merits of which the Committee entered, were decided in your favour?—' Ninety- two were decided with us, and 16 were decided to be good votes; those were all that we entered upon; the others were not entered upon on account of some technical objection. 6765. Mr. O'Connell.] There were only 16 on the merits decided against you? — Sixteen on the merits. 6766. Chairman. J How many, if any, of your votes were struck off the poll upon the ground of value ?— None. 6767. Was any list handed in by the other party?— We exchanged lists in the usual way, and they put upon the exchanged list certain votes that they intended to object to upon the ground of value. 6768. How many did they say they intended to object to upon the ground of value?— I think 140. 6769. Did they ever enter upon that list ?— They did not. 6770. Did they ever attempt to enter upon it?— No, but witnesses were examined for and against all the cases that were entered upon, and very strongly and hardly fought they were, I conceive. 6771. Mr. Lefroy.] The evidence taken before that Committee has been pub- lished by the order of The House ?— I believe it has; I have read it in a printed book. 6772. The decision upon those 92 was upon the point of insufficiency of quali- fication in point of value?— I looked upon it as an original trial of the man's right to be upon the register in point of value, so close was the examination in every case. 6773. Mr. O'Connell.] Do not you know that a number of those cases were decided by the chairman giving two votes?— The chairman had a right to give two votes, I believe. 6774. Have you any doubt whatever that they were decided by his giving a double vote ?— I have no doubt; but I have no doubt that the Committee satisfied their minds fully that they were giving a perfectly fair vote upon the occasion. 6775. They were equally divided, and the chairman gave one vote as a member, and one vote as chairman?— Yes. 6776. Mr. Lefroy.~\ Is that the account you give of the decision upon all the votes ?— I could not know what occurred in the committee- room when we were shut out. 6777. Mr. O'Connell.] Did not it transpire to you that most of those decisions were by the chairman giving his casting vote?— I cannot say that it did. 6778. Did not you hear that?— I heard that the chairman often gave a casting vote; but I cannot particularize any one case in which I heard that he had given a casting vote. 6779. That Committee was only 10?— A Committee of 10, and the Committee of 1833 was a Committee of 11 ; they were right well defended before that Com- mittee by able counsel and witnesses. Witnesses were produced on both sides; but I believe there was an unanimous decision of the Committee that the swearing of one of Mr. White's witnesses was not credited, and that he was not worthy of credit on his oath. 6780. Chairman.] What was the name of that witness ?— Peter Daley; he had been examined several times. 6781. Mr. Lefroy.] And he came to support the votes ?— He did, and after a long cross- examination, and re- examination by Mr. Austin, in which he endea- voured to support him, and bring him back to his original position, the Com- mittee- room was cleared, and we were informed that they came to a unanimous decision that he was not worthy of credit on his oath. Many votes out of the lO were supported and retained upon the poll by his evidence before he broke clown. 643. " c 4 C7S2. Those