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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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2o8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. E. Rooney. 11367. Even if he had lost that certificate, the books would have been sufficient evidence ?— I believe so. , 11368. Chairman.] Will you turn to question 6990, in the evidence* you nave before you Petitions 1837. 25 May 1838. * Evidence on before you; is it not stated, in answer to that question, " If you will allow me, Longford Election j wJJJ exj) iajn jt; Mr. Dogherty was not willing to admit him, and then he went into PoHnw Spss. the other court'on an old certificate, and got himself registered"?—! see that answer, but I also see this : " Do you mean to say you went with him before Mr. Fosberry?"—" No, I did not."—" How do you know what took place before Mr Fosberry ?"—" Because we found it out?"—" Were you there ? "—" I was not." That follows. 11 369. Mr. Lefroy.] Did the witness, Mr. Griffith, state that he was present in Mr. Dogherty's court when Cunningham proposed to be admitted on the ground of value ?— Yes ; he states he was there the whole of the day. 11370. And that, having been rejected on the ground of value, he went into Mr. Fosberry's court?— He did not reject him; he stated he was unwilling to admit him ; there was no proof of rejection. 11371. That Mr. Dogherty being willing to admit him, he went to the other court, and was admitted?— Yes, so it appeared. 11372. Chairman.] And that Mr. Dogherty desired the claim to stand over?— It appears that Mr. Dogherty was willing to admit him, and he went into the other court, and got admitted upon his old certificate. 11373. Mr. French.] Do you think it extraordinary that the counsel for the Liberal interest, if they found Mr. Dogherty was making objections not founded upon law, should send the voters into another court, where no such objections were made ?— Certainly not. 11374. Chairman.] Was Mr. Dogherty inimical to the Liberal interest ?— I cannot say that he was. llo75' Was that the impression in the county of Longford?-— I cartnot say it was. 11376. Was that the impression against Mr. Fosberry ?— Yes, I know it was. 11377. That he was always against the Liberal interest in his decisions?— Yes, I know that myself. 11378. But that was not so in the case of Mr. Dogherty?— I cannot say ; I was not present. 11379. You never heard that?— I heard there were some cases in which he was complained of for his decisions. 11380. All registering barristers in Ireland, when they decide against the Liberal interest, are complained of, are they not?— No, I should say not, if they are considered just ones. 11381. But are they not always considered unjust when they are against that side ?— I could not go so far as that. 11382. However, you have nothing to complain of against Mr. Dogherty gene- rally ?— No, except in this instance. ] 1383. In this case you think he must have been mistaken?— I know nothing of the merits of the case; Mr. Griffith does not go into the merits in his evidence: it probably may have been directed to stand over, and the counsel considered it useless as he had his certificate, or probably they might have found his certificate, after having put him first upon his value. 11384. Mr. Curry.] Do you find in that list you made out the name of Peter Clarke ?•— Yes. 11385. Was he struck off by the Committee of 1837 ?— He was. 11386. When was Peter Clarke put upon the registry?— In the general register of 1832. 11387. Did you view and value Clarke's farm in February 1837 ?— I did. 11388. Where does he reside?— At Fort William, in the barony of Rathcline. 11389. How many acres of land had Clarke on his farm ?— Fifteen acres four perches. 11390. What was his yearly rent ?—£. 6. 7 s. 2 d. 11391. What did you value his farm at by the acre ?— About 25 s, 11392- Could a solvent tenant have given Clarke 10 a year for his interest in that farm, over and above the rent he himself paid ?— Certainly. 11393- Chairman.] What do you say was the date of this man's registry ?— I believe December 1832. 0 11394. Who
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