1 88 M l N X J T E S O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE Mr. James Ternan. 22 May 1838. 11027. Did they take any part in the registration ?— Very little ; Mr. Skipton took no part, except to register himself; Mr. Hinds was rather active. 11028. Were they present during any of the proceedings ?— Sometimes they Mr. Skipton is an old man, and took no part. were I V' - I think 11029. Were they present when the man had his leg broken ?— I do not re- collect such a thing occurring. ^ 11030. Do you recollect a man having his thigh broken — No. 1 1031. Or a man having his skull fractured ?— I heard of such a thing taking place. 11032. When did that take place?— During a contest; it was outside the court. 11033. Were you in court when the thing took place ?— I thmk I was 11034. Were any proceedings had with regard to that transaction ? not. 11035. Can you state why there were no proceedings taken ?— I cannot take upon myself to state ; there was great excitement at the time, and the friends of the injured person might have conceived that they would not have got justice. 11036. Is that your opinion?— From the excitement at the time, and the strong party feeling that there was, it is my opinion they would not have got satisfaction. 11037. How was this person's skull fractured?— I heard it alleged that it was a policeman that struck him; knocked him down. 11038. Do you mean to state, that party feeling ran so high that no legal proceedings could have been taken with regard to this outrage ?— I will not take upon me to say that, but such was the feeling. 11039. Do you mean to state, that, supposing legal proceedings had been attempted to be instituted, they would have been frustrated ?— I will not take upon me to state so. 11040. Then your opinion is not to that extent ?— It does not go so far as that; that might have been the opinion of the friends of the injured person. 11041. Mr. O'Connell Then the injured person could not have been a Conservative ?— No ; I think he belonged to the Liberal side. 11042. Chairman.'] Can you state the name of the person so injured ?— No. 11043. you ever hear of any person being seriously injured by the police during the registry ?— No. 11044. Neither man, woman or child ?— Yes, there was a woman ; it was not in the court; it was after. 11045. It had nothing to do with the registry ?— No. 11046. Do you know whether this person whose skull was fractured had anything to do with the registry ?— I think I heard it said that he was a claimant coming up to register. 11047. Do you know whether lie lived or died?— I think he lived. 11048. Did you ever hear anything more about it?— Nothing more than a great rout made about it at the time. 11049. You were understood to say that there was no intimidation upon the part of the Liberals ?— Not that I am aware of. 11050. Everything was quite quiet and tranquil, and no intimidation of any sort was exhibited on the Liberal side during the registration ?— None that came within my knowledge. 11051. Nor your belief ?— I would like to know what is meant by intimidation. 11052. What do you consider to be intimidation upon the side of the Con- servatives ?— I think the landlords and their agents appearing in court, and by their threats and menaces deterring men coming forward to exercise a right to register, I think is intimidation. 11053. You mean to state that there was no intimidation 011 the other side, either in preventing persons coming forward to register upon the one hand, or forcing individuals to come forward to register on the other ?— I know of none ; the Catholic priests took a very active part in advising their flocks, such as they considered had a right to register. 11054. In what way did they give that advice?— Generally speaking to the people themselves ; they were very active in asking the men to come forward. 11055. Did they ask them to come forward in their chapels, or was it out of doors ?— In their chapels, after prayers on Sunday. 11056. Who