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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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\ 12 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE T. Courtenay, Esq. 6674. Mr. O'Connell.] Are yours strong ?— I cannot say that they are very stroncr; they are very moderate, I believe. 23 March 1838. 6g75> Mr> Lefroy.] Did any persons apply at the sessions held by Mr. Tighe, to be registered, who had been struck off the register by the decision of the Com- mittee ?— Yes. 6676. Did he register them ?— He did. 6677. Did he register them without any evidence of a further qualification than they had proved before the Committee?— He did. 6678. Was he apprised that the Committee had struck them off the poll for want of qualification?— He was, but he did not mind that, for he denied the power of The House of Commons to interfere with the register. 6679. Mr- O'Cornell.] Do you know Mr. Martley, the King's counsel ?— I do. 6680. A very able man?— I conceive he is, and a very good lawyer. 6681. A politician of what you would call the right sort?— He is on my side of the question, I believe. 6682. Do not you call that the right sort?— I do, of course. 6683. Do you know whether lie has actually put upon the register men who were struck off by a Committee of The House of Commons ?— I never heard be- fore that he did. 6684. Mr. Lefroy.] Mr. Tighe, however, denied the authority of The House of Commons to strike those men off the register?— He did; and refused evidence of The Speaker's warrant, and of the facts. 6685. And he re- registered them upon their old qualification?— He did. 6686. Did he register any other persons who had been rejected by his prede- cessors?— He did: he registered men whose claims had been rejected by Mr. French, and who had been rejected at the reform registry; and I am aware of an instance where he registered a man who had been three times rejected, had appealed to the assizes, and had been rejected by a jury of the county sworn to try the merits of his case, and Mr. Tighe afterwards registered him. 6687. Will you state the name of that person?— Christopher Cahill. 6688. Was he rejected at the original registry?— He was taken off by the Com- mittee of 1833 as a bad vote ; he attempted to register in April 1835 before Mr. French, and in April 1836, and he was rejected. 6689. When did he attempt again?— In January 1837. 6690. Was he rejected then ?— He was. 6691. Had he appealed upon any of those occasions?— He appealed to the assizes. 6692. After the registry of January 1837?— Yes. 6693. Was his right tried before a judge and jury?— I believe it was. 6694. Chairman.] Wrho was the judge?— I rather think it was Judge Moore, but I cannot be positive. 6695. Mr. Lefroy.~\ Was their verdict against the sufficiency of his qualifica- tion ?— It was. 6696. Were those facts stated to Mr. Tighe?— They were got out of the man himself in evidence; when he came up to claim before Mr. Tighe, the man ad- mitted all that I have stated. 6697. And after that, Mr. Tighe registered him?— He did. 6698. Was any evidence, in addition to that, offered to disprove his qualifica- tion at the sessions ?— I cannot state positively ; but I think, probably, I did not, because I thought it useless. 6699. Was ft uPon precisely the same qualification that he was registered by Mr. Tighe upon which the jury had decided, and upon which he had come up to register before ?— It was. 6700. That man's name is on the register still?— It is. 6701. And if there be no power to open the register, he must of course remain upon it?— He must. 6702. Were you present when any other persons were admitted by Mr. Tighe, whose qualifications were under 10/. bona fide value ?— I was. 6703. Have you any list of persons so admitted ?— I have. 6704. Will you state the names and particulars of those cases ?— The precise names I cannot give now, but I will hand in a list the next day I appear here. 6705. In the instances you have last stated, of Mr. Tighe admitting other per- sons not having a full qualification, was evidence offered to show the want of qua- lification of those persons ?— Yes. 6706. Did
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