77J SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 175 / 10571. You did not hear what he said?— I was not so near as to take notice Mr S. Nicholls of it. ______ ' 10572. But Captain Walker did not take any notice of it ?— As to prosecuting 18 MHJ 1838. him or bringing him to trial, he did not. 10573- You believe he did not take any notice of it?— No. 10574. Although he saw the transaction as well as you did ?— Yes. 10575- Mr. Lefroy.] Will you undertake to say no further proceeding was taken with regard to that policeman ?— I do not know of any. io576: Chairman.] With regard to the subsequent election, that was in 1833, I believe?— No, the election took place in December 1832, and the petition was tried in 1833. 10577. Now will you tell me whether or no, at that time, your belief was, that Lord Forbes was the person that the Castle interest in Dublin wished to see seated for the county of Longford ?— I considered they were anxious to see him seated for Longford. 10578. You mean to say that whatever influence could be thrown into the elec- tion by the Castle of Dublin, was thrown in in favour of Lord Forbes ?— Yes, so much so that the policemen and postmasters voted for Lord Forbes. 10579. You never heard from those policemen that they were the worse for having voted for Lord Forbes ?— I never did. 10580. You never heard of any people coming to Lord Forbes and stating they should lose their places if they voted for him ?— It might have been, but I never heard of such a representation. 10581. Mr. Curry.] You are asked if you heard it?— I did not. 10582. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You spoke of the Roman- catholic clergy not using any undue means to induce people to come forward?— Yes. 10583. Did they interfere at all?— I consider they interfered so far as giving advice. 10584. Did they give advice?— I consider they did. 10585. When did they give advice?— Whenever they met their parishioners. 10586. Did they give advice in their chapels ?— I dare say they did. 10587. Is that general in the county of Longford ?— Yes. 10588. From the altars ?— Yes; when service is over, and before the congregation would disperse. 10589. They would advise them to go to the registry?— Yes, impress upon them the necessity that they should register their votes, to return Members to represent them fairly, and have good laws made. 10590. That was generally done in the county of Longford?— I consider it was. 10591. You are a Roman- catholic yourself?— I am. 10592. Did you ever hear it done?— I think I did in Longford parish, where I reside. 10593- Is that your own parish ?— Yes. 10594. Were you attending Divine worship ?— Yes. 10595- Who was the priest then ?— There was an old man, Mr. Donohoe, and he had two curates, Mr. Lyons and Mr. Davis. 10^ 96. Which gave that advice ?— I consider both the curates did. 10597. And not the old gentleman ?— I do not think he did. 10598. These two young gentlemen did ?— Yes. 10599. How long had they been in the parish?— One of them was there four or five years till he died, that is Mr. Lyons, and Mr. Davis is there still. 10600. Was Mr. Lyons brought from any other parish, or was that the first parish he had ?— Mr. Donohoe and he were in Edgeworths- town, and when the priest of Longford died, they were removed from Edgeworth's- town to Longford. 10601. What aged man was Mr. Lyons?— I suppose 26 or 28. 10602. He came from Maynooth?— Yes; he studied at Maynooth, and was at Edgeworth's- town with Mr. Donohoe. 10603. Where did the other curate come from ?— He was educated at May- nooth also. 10604. And you heard them at the altar 011 Sundays recommend the people to attend the registry ?— Yes ; after service I heard them recommend the people to attend the registry, and register. 10605. Did you often hear them ?— I cannot say often ; perhaps once or twice each. 643. z 10606. They