SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 175 / 10145. How much an acre do you value those lands at in the barony of Gra- Mr . Bryan Clogher. nard, that you speak of?— If you will refer me to any one holding I have been & upon, I will tell you. XS May l838> 10146. Tell me some holdings you have been upon?— That holding I am speaking of now is one of them, Brady's; it is in the barony of Granard, I believe. 10147. Did you value, or were you upon any of the holdings upon Mr. Greville's estate ?— Yes, I was. 10148. In the list you have published, it appears that from number 258 to the end are farms in the barony of Granard ?— Yes, I believe they are. 10149. have given in these farms, then, as farms which you have viewed and valued?— Yes. 10150. Consequently you are well acquainted with the lands in those farms; now what do you value the land at?— I value some holdings upon that estate you allude to, of Mr. Greville's, at 3 /. 10151. Would that be a fair average value for the lands you have so given in? — For part of them I consider it would; some at 505., some 52 s., and some 2 /. 8 s., according to the quality. 10152. Give me the highest and the least value of those farms in the barony of Granard ?— I could not give the highest and the least without reference to the book. 10153. Chairman.'] Where is that book ?— I believe it is in Dublin at present. J 0154. Mr. Lefroy.~\ Have you not given us this list as a list of farms as to which you are giving evidence for our instruction, as to the fair value of these farms, and the beneficial interest in them ?— I gave in a map for that purpose. 10155. Have you given evidence of the value of any of these farms?— Not yet, I believe, unless this one of Brady's. 10156. Did you give evidence of Brady's?— Yes. 10157. Now, let us know, if you please, what you valued Brady's land at?—- £. 2. 85. an acre. 10158. Is this the Brady as to whom you have given in the calculation ?— Yes. 10159. What do you make the amount of Brady's beneficial interest in his farm ?— I did not calculate it altogether ; I only calculated the produce ; I left the II acres out. 10160. Now be so good as to give me a calculation of what you make the bene- ficial interest in Brady's farm?— I consider it would come to 55/. 8s. 4d.\ I have no account of the county cess or the tithes. 10161. But after deducting his rent and labour, and all other things that ought to be deducted in computing the beneficial interest, except the county cess and tithe, you make his beneficial interest 55 I. 8 s. 4 d. ?— Yes. 10162. Is not that a very high rate at which you have calculated it?— I do not think it is. 10163. Is the quality of that land prime ?— It is good land ; it is not altogether prime; part of it is very prime land. 10164. The whole is good land?— Indeed it is reasonably good land ; he has a very good orchard in it. 10165. How many acres has he ?— Twenty- one acres one rood. 10166. And that is a fair calculation of his beneficial interest?— I think it is. 10167. Now will you be so good as to tell rne how you make out Roarke's beneficial interest to be 71 1. 6 s. 2 d. upon a farm of 22 acres 2 roods, which you valued only at 1 /. 6 s. an acre, and stated it, at the same time, to he not very good land, any one part of it; will you reconcile those two calculations of beneficial interest, if you can ?—£. 64. 16 s. I made of that. 10168. Turn to the questions and answers 9821, 9822, 9823, and 9824, and see if that is a correct answer( The Witness read the questions and answers referred to.) 10169. Have you read those answers ?— I have. 10170. Are those answers taken down accurately?— I believe they are taken down accurately; but I had not the deductions made out of the 86 I. at that time. 10171. Your calculation upon this map, to which you refer in these answers, makes the gross beneficial interest, without deducting the rent, 86 I, ?— Yes. 643. x 10172. What