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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE , qqK1 Are vou in the habit of attending those registries to give an opinion as Mr. Bryan Ctogher,. ^ 995^^ ? jL[ ^ ^^ but () nce . j did aUen(] once. ,6 Miv 1818 QQ52. In how many cases ?— Not many cases. _ a JJO Are - n the habit of attending the registry courts, so as to be able to aive an answer as to the practice of persons who appear in the registry courts ?— ^ oo u'^ You do not know whether it is the habit of claimants to put the value of their premises higher or lower than the truth?— I do not know how they put it. qq55. You do not know whether it is the custom of claimants to make the most of'their expenses, as connected with their holdings, rather than the least?— Indeed I do not know what they are in the habit of doing in that way. 9956. Mr. Curry.] The other maps you produce are the maps of the holdings of other persons mentioned in this list, but whose farms you did not actually survey ?— No ; I sketched round, and showed the position of the boundaries, and the part where the tillage was situated. 9957. Have you made an estimate of the acreable value of the farms of those several persons mentioned in this list?— Yes, of most of them I believe I have; there was another book that I have not here. 9958. Are you able to say whether those persons of whose farms you did make an estimate, had, with reference to the yearly rent they paid, such an interest in their lands that a solvent tenant would give them 10 /. a year for their farms, over and above the rent they paid ?— Yes, they had. 9959. Do those maps which you produce correctly state the number of acres on their farms, the nature of their farms, and the crops which their farms had at the time you saw them?— Most of them did, but they were all in the other book. 9960. Where is the other book ?— I believe it is in the possession of the soli- citor that was for the petition. 9961. You have not it yourself?— No, I have not. 9962. Do you know the particulars of the farm of a man of the name of Daniel Cunningham ?— I do. 9963. Have you anv memorandums, in that book you have, of his farm?— Yes. 9964. Do you know how many acres Cunningham had in his farm ?— I believe 21 acres and something. 9965. Do you know what rent he paid?— I believe 12/. 8 s. 7 d. 9966. What did you value his farm at by the acre ?—£. 1.8s. an Irish acre. 9967. For 21 acres?— Yes. 9968. What does the whole of that amount to ?—£. 29. 8 s. 9969. Could a solvent tenant, in your judgment, afford to give Cunningham 10 I a year above the rent he paid for his interest in that farm?— I consider that he could. 9970. It appears that Cunningham was struck off by the Election Committee for Longford in 1837 ?— So I understand by the book. 9971. Chairman.] Were you aware, that when Mr. Cunningham proposed to register before Mr. Dogherty he was rejected ?— I was not aware of it; I was not in the county at the time. 9972. Have you heard of it since?— No, I did not hear it, if I did not see it in that book. 9973. Have you seen the Minutes of Evidence, to which reference has been made, taken before the Longford Committee in the spring of 1837?— I have seen it since I came to town. 9974- Did you refer to the Evidence respecting the case of Cunningham there'— 1 did. 0 9975. Did you not perceive there that such was the fact; that he went to register before Mr. Dogherty; tnat Mr. Dogherty rejected him on the ground of value, and that he then went to Mr. Fosberry, and was registered upon the old certifi- cate r— I believe 1 read that in the book. 9976 Then how could you state that you were not aware of those circum- stances oeing as they were described in the former question ?- I did not recollect it; 1 did not read much of it. } J977. Dk1 you not also see that he swore that he paid 15/. a year rent for his land .— 1 do not know whether he swore it or not. 9978. Did you not see a statement, that when ' he was examined he swore that he
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