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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND- * 35 1 9682. Did you hear them make speeches to the people during the registry?— Mr. Patrick Flood. cannot say I did during the registry ; I did afterwards, before the election. 9683. Previous to the election ?— Yes. 15 May 1838. 9684. Mr. O'Connell.] Did they make . good speeches ?— Yes. 9685. Mr. Lefroy.] To large crowds of people?— Yes. 9686. Exciting speeches ?— Telling tliem not to take a bribe, and to vote honestly. 9687. Merely that?— I never heard them advise the people to do what they ought not to do. 9688. Did you ever hear them denounce any particular candidate ?— I have heard them mention Mr. Lefroy's name, and Lord Forbes's, and say he was not deserving of their support; that he had turned round and joined his interest with the other side. 9689. Did they never say anything more than that 1They desired them not to attempt to be bribed, and to vote honestly. 9690. And they said nothing beyond that?— They made long speeches. 9691. Did they ever say anything more strongly of those individuals than what you have stated ?— No; they never made use of any language they had not a right to make use of. 9692. Did they or not make use of stronger language than what you have spoken to?— No, I am not aware that they did. 9693. Mr. O'Connell.'] Did they ever make use of stronger language than that Lord Forbes was a traitor, who supported them for a long time and then deserted them ?— Yes, they said he was not deserving of their support for the part he took. 9694. Mr. Lefroy.] Did you ever hear them denounce any man from the altar for the part lie took ?— No. 9695. You never heard them do it?— No, not in the barony I live in. 9696. And you have not heard that they did it?— I may have heard of it. 9697. But what do you believe ; did you ever hear of any instances in which they denounced men from the altar for the part they took ?— I may have heard of it. 9698. But you have no recollection of having heard any particular instances? •— No, it might be the case. 9699. But you cannot tell us of any instances you heard of?— No; in the barony of Granard all voted as the clergyman wished, except at the last election there were two, and I never heard anything said against them in the chapel; I do not think there is a single voter in the barony of Granard who did not vote in the same way. 9700. Have you known any instances, at any of the elections you have attended, of men having voted, who had lost their qualification?— No; on our side I am satisfied they did not. 9701. You are satisfied that not a single man voted on your side, who had lost his qualification, at the elections you attended ?— In the barony of Granard, to my knowledge they did not. 9702. Nor in any other barony that you know of?— Not to my knowledge. 9703. As you were in the secrets of your party, do you believe, from the infor- mation you got, that any man voted who had lost his qualification ?— I believe the clergyman of his parish would not allow any man to come forward to take the oath, if his qualification had ceased. 9704. Then they would either take the oath or not, as the clergyman per- mitted ?— No, but as the agent of the opposite party opposes them; I could name several who did not come forward. 9705. Can you name one?— Thomas Donohoe, of Springtown; the life in his lease dropped. 9706. At the last election, did any men vote who had lost their qualifications? — I was not at the election at all. 9707. You took no part in it ?— I was not at any of the polling at all. 9708. Now upon the registry of the county on your side, is there a single man who has not a qualification ?— I believe those men appear upon the clerk of the peace's book, although their qualification has ceased; he cannot remove them until the leases are out. 9709. Are not any others in the same situation ?— Yes; some lives in their leases have dropped; Lord Longford's life was on a great many leases. 643. s 4 9710- Was
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