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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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Mf. Patrick Flood. V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE 9531. And although two acres of ground may for one or two years produce 10 /. a year, over and above all the rent and charges of planting the potatoes, yet 15 May 1838. taking the average of ten years, would those two acres produce 10 /. a year upon the average ?— No. . 9532. Mr. Lefroy.] What would they produce upon an average, according to the calculations' you have given us ?— I have made 110 calculation of two acres, or even five acres. 9533. You told Mr. Curry just now, a great deduction must be made for the deterioration of the land, by being let out several years under crops?— It would not be near so valuable. 9534. Did you not tell me that after being let out for crops for eight or nine years, a farmer would get 4/. an acre for the land to be let out without manure? — I did, for the land in the neighbourhood of Granard. 953,5. The lands as to which I examined you, were expressly the lands in the neighbourhood of Granard, which you described as capable of bearing eight or nine crops ?— I say the lands would not be so valuable. 9536. Mr. Curry.] You have already stated you attended on the registry in 1830 and subsequently?— Yes, up to 1835. 9537. And you attended at some of the elections ?— Yes; I was at two par- ticularly. 9538. Which two?— 1832 and 1835. 9539. Do you know of your own knowledge of any instances in which attempts were made to prevent persons coming up to register, at the registry of 1832, or at any of the subsequent registries ?— At the registry of 1832 I do. 9540. What were the names of any persons that you know of, that an attempt was made to prevent their corning up to register?— I did not take their names down, but there was Mr. Robinson I saw push back the freeholders in the court, and ask them, how dare they come there? 9541. You saw Mr. Robinson, during the registry of 1832, push back the free- holders who claimed to be registered, and ask them how they dared to come there ?— Yes. 9542. What was Mr. Robinson's christian name?— I cannot say his christian name; he is the son of Mr. Robinson, the agent of Lady Ross. 9543. Did that occur with respect to more than one individual who was coming up to be registered ?— Yes; I saw him do it to several. 9,544. Do you know whether those persons you saw pushed back, were persons who were entitled to be registered as voters ?— Yes ; and they came up and were admitted, a good many of them, afterwards. 9545. At any of the subsequent registrations, did you see any other attempt of that kind made ?— No ; it must have been in 1832 it occurred. 9546. At any of the elections you were at, did you see any attempts made to prevent voters coming up to vote except those you mentioned in your last day's evidence ?— No, I was engaged in the court all day ; I saw persons brought up to vote who were not freeholders. 9,547. Do you know of any case within your own knowledge, in which an attempt was made by the Conservative party to bring forward any person to vote who had not a right to vote for the county of Longford ?— I do. 9548. What is the name of the person who was so brought forward ?— Robert Arkins, who lives near Granard. 9549. At what election did that take place?— 1835. 9550. I11 what right did he claim to vote ?— As a 10/. freeholder. 9551. Was his name upon the registry ?— No. 9552. Had he a certificate ?— No ; they often vote without a certificate. 9553- Had he a certificate ?— He had not. 9554- Was there any affidavit purporting to be made by him in the list of affidavits ?— Yes ; I called upon him to take the affidavit. 9555- Was there any affidavit formerly made by him, found upon the list of affidavits, among the records of the county ?— No. 9556. Did you require him to take the qualification oath ?— I did 9557- M he take it ?- No ; I knew the man well; I knew that he was not qualified. 9,558. Did he refuse to take the qualification oath ?— They could not efet any document to show he was qualified, and therefore he went down from the table; we
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