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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr Patrick Flood. 9387. Does the same thing hold with potatoes ?— No, there will be the manure left i \ Mav i8t8 0388. Then what he lets in conacre for potatoes, is that more or less beneficial 15 May i53 » . by^ nacre than tQ cultivate on ] lis 0wn account ?— I am sure he will get more if he cultivates it himself. u i 0380 In what proportion more ?— I should think it would be 31 an acre more. 9390. Were all those persons tenants upon Mr. Greville's estate r— No. 0301. Were any of them?— Yes, some of them. 9392. How many of them ?— I think there were eight out of that list upon Mr. Greville's estate. . 9393. I think you have already admitted that Major J hompson had been an agent to that estate for many years?— I think he had been for a good many years. . 9394. Have you any doubt of it ?— I know he was an agent m 1830, and I was told he had been an agent before. He had the under agency, under Mr. Carr, before he was agent. 9395. Of course he was very well acquainted with the nature of those lands? — He ought to be. 9396. He was examined as a witness before the Committee in all those cases in which the Committee struck off the votes ? — No, not in all the cases. 9397. Have you 110 doubt about that?— I know that he was not examined in all the cases. 9398. Tell me any case in which he was not examined ?— I cannot; I did not go through the book; I know that Mr. Tuite was examined in some of the cases. 9399. Do you mean that Major Thompson was not examined ?— Yes ; he was examined in several cases. 9400. In several cases in which the votes were struck off?— Yes, he was. 9401. Was he examined in any of the cases which you have deposed to now, or have adduced before this Committee ?— He was examined in the case of Cormak Dowd, which I have now given in. 9402. In what other cases was he examined?— I cannot say; I have not looked over the book lately; but I know he was examined in several cases. 9403. In which the votes were struck off?— Yes, and in some in which they were retained. 9404. No man could be more able to give accurate information as to value than Major Thompson ?— Indeed I do not know that he gave himself much trouble about it. 9405. You think he did not give himself much trouble about the value of the lands?— I do not think he did, for he stated that Cormak Dowd had a good interest, and he was retained by the Committee of 1833, and struck off by the Committee of 1837. 9406. Where do you find that Major Thompson stated that ?— It was before the Committee of 1833. 9407. Did I understand you rightly to say that Major Thompson took no great trouble about the land ?— He has a property in the county of Meath, and I seldom or ever saw him down in Longford in my time. 9408. Then you think he was not a competent'judge of the value of land?— No, I say he got a fair rent, and allowed the tenants a fair interest, that is, in 1828; but I say he let land too high since. 9409. I am asking you respecting the competency of his judgment; is he or not a competent judge of land ?— He may be a competent judge of land. 9410. Will you say he is or is not?— Indeed I cannot say; I never saw him value land ; all the land he has let since 1828 he has let high. 9411 Do you believe Major Thompson is a competent judge of land ?— ^ should think he is; he ought to be, a gentleman who holds so much land him- 9412. Do you think he is a man of integrity, who would do justice to his employer r— I think he has done some acts no agent ought to do. 9413- Then you do not think he is a man of integrity, who would do justice to hi employer ?- I think he charged a fair rent at that period, but I think he charged too high in 1830; I would not value lands myself so high as Major lliompson let them at m 1830. b J 0414. Then
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