V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. Patrick Flood, rent of 10/., that he could easily get it ?- Yes, I believe this farm would fetcli more than the others; the man thought he was to pay 2 s. 6 d. an acre more, 11 May 1838. } jUt when the lease came down it was only 30 s. an acre. 0218. Does he occupy the whole of the farm ?— Me does. > 9219. How is it that all those people maintain their cows in the winter with- out meadow ?— They have oats and the straw. „ r,„ 0220. Where they sell the oats at conacre, how have they straw r— 1 here the stock is very small. ^ 9221. Everyman you have spoken of has stock, more or less t— But J do not say that lie set his land at conacre; but I took the value at conacre if the man was to take it into the market and set it. 9222. When you estimate the value of land by what it will bring for con- acre, of course you charge the straw included in that?— The man that takes the conacre of course will have the straw. 9223. And therefore you should charge that man with hay for his cattle?— No; because in the case of Sheridan he had two acres of oats and held it. 9224. But you have charged it as conacre oats?— It is worth a great deal more to the man himself, if he keeps the oats and the straw himself. 9225. Therefore you credit him with the produce of his farm at conacre price, and you afterwards credit him as if he had the straw?— No; not the man that set the conacre. 9226. You give him credit for a piece of oats grown by conacre?— Yes; I have made it out in two different ways. 9227. I11 every case you have given the man credit for his oats, as if it was set by conacre?— In some instances I have, and in some instances not. 9228. But in 110 case have you charged the man with fodder for his cattle in the winter?— The man generally has meadow on his own land. 9229. But the question applies to cases where you admit he has 110 meadow? — Of course, if a man has 110 meadow, he will have to buy meadow. 9230. You have not in any case debited the farm with the cost of meadow, even where the man had it not?— I believe there are very few cases where they have not meadow. 9231. But you have not, in any case where they have not meadow, debited the farm with the cost of meadow ?— There are only two cases where they have not meadow. 9232. But in any case where the man had no meadow, you have not debited the farm with fodder for the cattle in the winter?— No; that is the very case that is here before me, where there is no meadow, and you did not ask me to make it out. 9233. But in cases where you were asked to make it out, and where there was no meadow, in those cases you have not debited the farm with fodder ?— 1 believe the man fed the cattle upon the straw ; I believe the man did not buy meadow. 9234. There is one case at least in which you admit that the party had no meadow, and in this instance you gave him credit for conacre oats as if set by conacre ?— I estimate the beneficial interest as such. 9235. In that case, though you have given him credit for the produce of the stock, you have not charged him with fodder for the cattle in the winter?— No, because the man had fodder himself. 9236. What fodder had lie?— He had two acres of oats. 9237- Although you estimated that as if he set it in conacre ?— I say that if he set it 111 conacre, lie would get 7/. an acre, but he would get more by keeping it himself. 9238. You have credited the farm with the conacre charge for oats, and in that case you make 110 charge for fodder?— Yes. 9239 And you did that upon the principle that the man used the straw him- self r— Yes, in that one calculation. 9240. Mr. Curry.] Suppose, in place of crediting the farm with the value of two acres of oat ground let in conacre, you had credited it with the value of two acres of oats which he cultivated and reaped himself, what sum would you have put in the place of 14/. ?— Eighteen pounds. 9241. So that in point of fact, where it is 14/. in conacre, it would be 18 /, ^ Posing the man sows the oats himself, and the result will amount to the same tiling: — Yes; because I would not charge labour with the conacre. 9242. You