S E L E C T C O M M I T T E E O N F I C T I T I O U S V O T E S , I R E L A N D. // 1 1 5 9129. In all those instances where you have, were they all cases where the Mr Patrick Flood person did, in fact, let his land in conacres?— I have taken the beneficial - - interest the same as conacre in many instances. 11 May 1838. 9130. Have you adopted the principle of conacre as the mode of calculating the beneficial interest in all cases ?— I have principally. 9131. In cases where the man has not in point of fact let it in conacre?— Yes, I might. 9132. Why have you taken that mode of calculating the beneficial interest where the man has not let in conacre ?— I knew what it would brin< r in the market, and thought it the easiest and fairest way to calculate. 9133. Which, in your opinion, makes the most of his potatoe land, a man who lets it in conacre or a man who sows the potatoes himself and digs the crop and sells it himself?— I think a man that would keep the land all himself and be well able to stock it, would make more money. 9134. You think the man that would sow the potatoes himself and dig them afterwards and take them to market, would make the most ?— If he feeds them there is more money made by feeding, particularly by pigs. 9135. You think a man would make more by his potatoe land who should cultivate potatoes himself, and either sell them or use them upon his farm, than by letting it upon conacre ?— If he had stock to consume them by stall- feeding, I think he would. 9136. Is it very general in that part of the country to let the land in conacre? -— Very general. 9137. Is it the practice with those men who have registered as voters ?— Some of them do it and some do not. Wherever there is grass land that they want to break up, they let it out in score without any manure. 9138. Mr. O'Connell.] What you mean by letting out " in score," is letting out at conacre without manure ?— Yes. 9139. That is grass land ?— Yes. 9140. The " score" means the sillon made by the plough to mark out the land ?— Yes. 9141. Mr. Lefroy.] You spoke of stall- feeding as a way of using a farm. Is there much stall- feeding carried 011 by such farmers as you have been describing? — No, I do not say that they stall- feed, but that a man that would be able to do so, would make more money. 9142. Mr. Curry.] Have you the name of any other person whose farm you valued, and who was struck off by the Election Committee of 1837?— Miles Reilly, of Trumroe : he is mentioned in page 365 of the Report of the Election Committee. 9143. When was he registered ?— I think it was in 1832. 9144. When was he struck off'?— In 1837. 9145. Did you value that man's farm ?— I did. 9146. In what year?— In 1837. 9147. How many acres of ground had he?— 16a. 1r. 33p. Irish. 9148. What was his yearly rent?— It was 35 s. an Irish acre ; his rent must be something about 30 I. 10 s. 9149. What quality of land was his farm ?— Very prime land ; it is close to the town of Granard. 9150. Were there good farm- houses or buildings upon it?— Yes. 9151. In what way was his farm occupied in 1837 ; how many acres of oats and potatoes and other things ?— He had four acres of oats, two acres and a half of potatoes, and an acre and a half of meadow. 9152. How was the rest of it occupied?— Under grass. 9153. What stock had he?— Five cows, a brood mare, and five pigs. 9154. In your judgment would a solvent tenant have given that man 10/. for his interest in the farm above the rent?— He would. 9155. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You do not mean that that solvent tenant should get all his stock into the bargain?— Certainly not, without paying for them. 9156. Mr. Curry.] What, in your judgment, understanding as you do the term " beneficial interest," was his beneficial interest in the land worth —£. 40. a year; it might be more. 9157. Do you know what the date of his lease was ?— They seem to be all the same ; in 1828. 643. Q 2 9'. 58. I*