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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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V 76 MINUTES O F E V I D E N C E T A K E N B E F O R E T HE Mr. Patrick Flood. QOOQ. These are the first entries you made ?- The only entries I made. moo. And you made those upon the spot ?— I made the greater part of them 11 May 1838. Up0n the lands, and in the evening I made the calculations, when I went home, 9101. Were you employed to do this ?— No, they wanted to employ me, but I would not take employment from them. q] 02. No person employed you to do it?— No. 0103. And you did it without any reward?— I was not paid. 9104. Did you volunteer to do it ?— I was requested by the freeholders to do it to prevent the votes getting broken. . . , 9105. And you are not to get any remuneration for it ?— No ; they have had time to pay me from 1833 to this, if I was to get anything. There are others that took a part equally as I did. 9106. How many farms did you visit, and how many calculations did you make ?— I cannot tell the exact number without going over them; I suppose decidedly upwards of 100 ; it might be more. 9107. And you have the particulars of them in those books ?— I think the greater part of them are here ; there are other books that I have not here. 9108. Did you do all this with a view of giving evidence?— I did this with a view of giving evidence before the registering barrister first, and to give evidence in 1837- 9109. Do you mean to say that you have been employed on two different occasions, first preparatory to the registry of 1832, and afterwards preparatory to the Election Committee of 1837 ?— Yes. 9110. Were the whole of those three or four months that you were employed upon the one occasion or both occasions?— Upon different occasions : there were three occasions, because I did the greater part of this for the registry as well as the two elections and petitions. I attended from 1832 to 1835 at the registries constantly ; I served notices for this particular barony. 9111. You were to be examined as a witness upon the question of value before the registering barrister?— 1 was, in a few instances, but I always thought it more convenient to bring up men that were convenient to the land. 9112. How long was this Mr. Clogher employed, who seems to be a sur- veyor and valuator of land?— I should think the man was three months out in the business; he was in another part of the county, but I refused to go with him. 9113. Was he paid?— I am sure he was. 9114. By whom?— By Mr. Nesbitt, I believe; it might have been by the agent employed for the petition. 9115. Did lie map the different farms that you valued?— He did. 9116. Did he make maps of the other farms of this description, such as he has made of Friskin ?— I should think he did ; I saw a great number of maps with him ; Mr. Nesbitt was with him himself. 9117. Mr. Nesbitt accompanied him in making these valuations?— Yes. 9118. And any other gentleman ?— Yes. 9119. Who was that?— Mr. Park. 9120. Were Mr. Park, and Mr. Nesbitt, and Air. Clogher, employed for three months ?— I think they were. 9121. And there were other persons employed ?— There were in the off part of the county, but I was not with them. 9122. Was Mr. Nesbitt paid by anybody ?— I cannot say. 9123. Or Mr. Park r— I should think that Mr. Park was paid. 9124. You do not know by whom?— I should think Mr. Welsh, the ao- ent of Mr. White. & r 9125- Are all your calculations, so far as potatoe ground is concerned, rounded upon the conacre principle ?— No ; there are many farms that are not set in the conacre, and, when they labour it themselves, of course some of them will make more profit. 9126. This man, with five acres, did he actually let out the potatoe land in conacres r— He was pressed for his rent, and then he broke the land ; he had it set out, and it brought 35 I. 4 5., and that paid the rent. 9127. Then he did let out three acres of conacre ?— He did. 9128. In the other cases you have not calculated at the conacre rentIn some instances I have, and in other instances I have not. 9129. In
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