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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. c 1 11 9024. How many acres of ground has her— Ten acres, one rood and 10 Mr. Patrick Flood fk perches Irish. 9025. What was his yearly rent?— Rent and fees included, 3 9/. 1211 May 1833. 9026. Is not his land of good quality ?— Yes, it is on the same townland, and the same quality as the last. 9027. Are there any houses upon it r— There are ; the man lives upon it. 9028. In what condition are the houses?— In tolerably good repair. 9029. Can you state what quantity of crop ground he had upon his farm at the time you valued it in 1837?— I can ; he had five acres of potatoes. 9030. Any oats?— Two acres of oats. 9031. Any meadow?— No; he had two cows and a two- year- old heifer. He was after selling a couple of pigs to meet the landlord at the time, but they were not worth much. 9032. In your judgment, would a solvent tenant have given that man 10 /. a year for his farm over and above the rent lie paid ?— He would. 9033. According to your understanding of " beneficial interest," what was his beneficial interest in that farm worth r— Something better than 30/.; it must have been more than 30/. when I viewed it. 9034. Was he an improving tenant?— He has been an improving tenant the last four or five years; this is the man I alluded to that owed the rent, that paid up the four years' arrears. 9035. He has paid up the arrears of four years within the last five years? — Since 1833. 9036. Do you know what the date of his lease is?— Much about the same time in 1828. 9037. Mr. Lefroy,] He had two cows and a two- year- old heifer when you saw him ?— Yes. 9038. No meadow?— No. 9039. At what time did you see the cattle upon the land?— At the latter end of March or April. 9040. They must have looked very well at that time, after the winter's feed? — The man feeds his cattle very well, and his land is some of the best land in the county. 9041. That man you estimate to have had upon that farm a beneficial interest of above 30 /.?— Yes. 9042. Will you make out how he had it?— Here it is added up in the book ; he has five acres of potatoes, 42/.; three acres of them are conacres. 9043. Mr. Serjeant Jackson Do you mean to give that as the net value, or the gross value of the potatoes?— I am only charging conacre rent, what the land would let at in conacre, for a man to take it, and put in the seed himself. 9044. You are not making your calculation upon what he would actually make by digging and converting his crop into money, but upon what, he would get for his ground if he let it by conacre ?— Yes, so far as the potatoes go. 9045. Mr. Lefroy.] You put it at eight guineas an acre, without his finding manure?— His land does not require manure ; there are three acres of land let without any manure, at eight guineas an acre; it is grass land. 9046. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You call it eight guineas an acre for the mere land without any manure put upon it or any expenditure upon it?— Yes ; if he had 50 acres of it, he could get that for it. 9047. Mr. Lefroy.] And that for successive years, year after year ?— No; they never give it more than two crops. 9048. You are asked as to the value of his beneficial interest in the land, not only for one or two years, but what he can make one year with another?— Perhaps another year Sheridan would not make so much by potatoes. 9049. You are giving the answer as to the value of those five acres of potatoes, supDosing them to be let in conacre ?— Yes, that is 42/.; then there are two acres of oats, 7/. an acre, in conacre also, that is 141. I know people that pay more than that. Fie has two cows and a heifer, worth 8/. a year; then I say the man is able to make profit on pigs, at least 6 /. 9050. If he lets his potatoe land in conacre and his oat land in conacre, is he entitled to any part of the crop ?— No, certainly not. 9051. Then how is he to feed his pigs if he is not entitled to any part of the crop, so as to make the 6/. by the pigs?— He keeps two acres of the potatoes for himself. 643. P 4 9052. Do
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