V 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. Patrick Flood. 8700. Can you state from your own knowledge whether those buildings were • upon his farm in the year 1833 ?- Certainly, long before ; from 1828 I can state 11 May 1838. it, or 1829. * „ „ , , . . 8701. Mr. Lefroy.] Was this map made by you ?— By the surveyor, who is in EttGiid^ ncG' 8702 Were you with him when he surveyed the land ?— No, I was not. 8703. When did you value this farm?— In April 1833, but I have known the farm a long time ; I have passed by it, I suppose, .50 times. 8704. Chairman.] There are the names of several other persons upon the map ; there is James Glancy and Marks Farrell, are those persons who hold part of this land that is included in the map?— They are upon the same townland. 8705. You do not mean to include them in M'Gurk's holding ?— No, the holdings are separate. 8706. Mr. O'Connell.] And they do hold separate leases ?— Certainly, the leases are quite separate. 8707. Mr. Lefroy.] Were not you in possession of this information at the time when the Committee were sitting ?— I was. 8708. Were you summoned as a witness ?— I was in attendance, but I had to return. 8709. What do you value that farm at?— I valued that farm at that period, at 55 s. an acre. 8710. What rent does he pay?— He pays 20/. rent. 8711. That is very nearly 2/. an acre?— He holds 12 acres Irish all but 19 perches. 8712. What beneficial interest do you say he has out of that farm?— He could not have less than between 30/. and 40 /. beneficial interest. 8713. Whereabouts are those lands situated?— Near Granard. 8714. Are they peculiarly good lands?— Very good. 8715. What sort of a house is it?— A very comfortable farm- house for a man of his description. 8716. In good repair?— In excellent repair. 8717. Glass windows ?— Yes. 8718. Built of stone ?— The greater part. 8719. What is the rest built of?— Mud. 8720. Thatched or slated ?— Thatched. 8721. Are there offices belonging to it?— Yes ; the offices are all in one range, as it appears upon the map; there is a small house upon the other division of the farm, upon the side of the road leading up to Mr. Barber's, the magistrate. 8722. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Is this uncommonly good land?— Indeed it is good, very good land. 8723. Is it better land than is to be obtained in almost any other part of Ireland ?— Not better ; but you would not get better land in Ireland than the land of Granarkill; it must be very good when the head landlord can get from 31. 10 s. an acre to 4 /. 8724. This man holds a few perches short of 12 acres, and he is subject to a rent of 201, a year, and you say that he has a beneficial interest in the farm to the extent of 30 /. or 401, a year ?— Yes, that is my answer. 8725. Is all the land of that neighbourhood of the same quality ?— Generally speaking, it is. 8726. Is there a large proportion of the county of Longford of that quality of land ?— In this particular barony there is; I never looked at any of the off lands of the county. 8727. What is the general rate of rent paid in that county ?— Mr. Greville has about 10,000/. or 12,000/. a year in this countv ; he gets from 31. 3 s. to 3 /. 10 5. for that land. " 8728. Mr. Lefroy.] You say that Mr. Greville has 10,000/. or 12,000/. a year?— I heard the under agent say that that is the amount of his rent roll. 8729. Is he paid that?— I should think he is paid upwards of 10,000 /. a year. 8730. You had that from the under agent; what is his name Mr. Reilly. 8/ 31. Are you well acquainted with this farm, and how he manages if f — y es, I am. 0 8732. Will you state how M'Gurk makes it produce 30/. or 40 /. a year?— When I valued it he had three acres of outs; he had an acre of potatoes ; he had