SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 111 c more than 1 I. an acre ?— He would have got a guinea and a half. I think it Mr Patrick flood would be very cheap at that, for the man has since built a good deal. °° * 8568. In 1825 you think it was worth a guinea and a half an acre ?— I think 8 May 18: 38. it was. 8569. Mr. Hogg.] " What did the middle- man, under the old lease which terminated in 1825, pay to Lord Southwell ?— I could not say that. 8570. Do you think he paid about 1 I. ?— I think he did. 8571. That was an old lease ?— It was. 8572. Then all that Lord Southwell did in 1825 was to grant, in a period of great depression, to the under- tenant a lease at about the rent that the middle- man paid him ?— Yes, about that. 8573. Mr. Beamish.'] Did he grant long leases?— Two young lives and 31 years ; the two sons of the agent. 8574. Mr. Hogg.] Did not the middle- men that held lands on leases nearly expired, and knew that they were not likely to get a renewal, take the heart out of the land ? — They generally set it as high as they could. 8575. And they generally, when the lease was expired, left it exhausted?— They ran it out as much as they could, if they did not expect to get a renewal. 8576. And under such circumstances, therefore, it would be worth the land- lord's while to let it cheap to get a tenant to bring it into heart again ?— The land might be worth 5 s. or G s. an acre less in consequence of that. 8577. Chairman.] Was not Daly Tuite's neighbour?— He lived within a mile and a half. 8578. What do you consider Tuite's house worth ?— There are two houses. 8579. What is the one worth out of which he registered ?— He registered out of the whole. 8580. What is the whole worth ?— I say the land is worth two guineas an acre, and I suppose the house would set at 71- a year. 8581. It is not worth 10 I. a year ?— It might be ; I think 7 I. or 8 /. is a low valuation; but I would put more value upon land than I would upon houses. 8582. Which is the most valuable, a house let by itself, or in conjunction with a farm ?— With a farm. 8583. Mr. Hogg.] WTiat is Lord Southwell letting his land for now?— There are different prices, according to the situation. In the lower part of the county he is letting land from 15 s. up to 11. 8584. What is he letting land of that description held by Tuite at now ?— I think he is not charging more than 1 L, and a guinea; but this farm is within four miles from the market, and the other land is in the hilly part of the county. 8585. Chairman.] In estimating a farm, how much do you put for the house ? — It would be according to the number of acres; a man with five or six acres of ground, I would put very little upon the house ; but this is a house that would set for a business, and there has been business carried on in it; it is 011 the leading road from Arvan, in the county of Cavan ; it is a very large house, a very fine house. 8586. Mr. Curry.] Can you name any other person whose farm you viewed and valued ?— Yes, there is John Cullen's, of Cloonagh. 8587. How many acres does he hold ?— He holds 11 acres, 1 rood, 8 perches. 8588. W'hat rent does he pay?—£.\. or a guinea an acre. 8589. At what time did you view his land?— I viewed his land in 183/ and 1838. 8590. Was he upon the register ?— Yes. 8591. In what year was he put upon the register ?— In April 1836. 8592. Was his name struck off by the Committee in'April 1837 ?— I think not. Brock gave testimony as to this vote, and it appears that upon the cross- examination by the counsel, he could not describe the land. 8593. Can you state any other case where the voter was struck off?— There is Denis Sheridan. 8594. How many acres does he hold?— I should think about 18 acres; he has some land thai is waste, adjoining the river; I think he pays for about 15- acres. 8595. What rent does he pay ?— Something like 14s. an acre. 8596. Was he upon the register?— Yes. N 3 8597. At