V SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. / Sir, I do not know anything about it; I never authorized it; and I do not T. Courlenav, Esq to go up, if I can help it." '•" was, intend to 6447. And those were persons that were not really qualified ?— I conceive they were not really qualified. 6448. Did you ever find any man really qualified who himself did not wish to be upon the register?— I have. 6449. A man who was free from all dread of a contrary influence ?— I have no doubt but that many of the freeholders of the county of Longford, who are upon the register, and well qualified, would rather not be on it. 6450. There may be many reasons for that, may there not ?— There may. 6451. But did you ever know a man, who was quite independent of the influ- ence of others, unwilling to have the right of voting?— No, 1 did not. 6452. Mr. E. Tennent.] Do you consider that, amongst the class of 10 I. free- holders in the county of Longford, there are many men who are perfectly inde- pendent of exterior influence?— I conceive that there are many independent men in the county of Longford. 6453. Amongst the 10/. freeholders?— Yes. 6454. Mr. Litton. J In the cases of those persons whose names were served by others, and who were unwilling to come forward to register, what do you consider to have been the preponderating influence which induced them to come forward, where other persons put their names forward without their permission?— I conceive that the names were served by the directions, in most instances, of the Roman- catholic clergy. 6455. Have you any doubt that, in the vast majority of instances where men were put forward without their own permission, and either expressed 01* felt that they would rather not come forward, that they were put forward by the Roman- catholic clergy ?— I have no doubt that the Roman- catholic clergy put them forward, and that at their instance they came forward. 6456. Mr. O'Connell. ] Is there no reform registry club ?— There is what was called, at the time, the Reform Registry Political Union; there was one established in Granard, in Ballymahon, and at Longford town. 6457. Chairman.] Will you state the date of that?— In 1832, previous to the serving of the notices for the registry; during the service and during the registry. 6458. Mr. O'Connoll.] Were not they in correspondence with the associations in Dublin ?— I cannot say that they were; I do not know that at that time they were. 6459. Mr. Litton.'] Have you any doubt that many were registered in the county unwillingly, under the directions and influence of the lioman- catholic clergy ?— I am sure they were. 6460. Mr. O'Connell.] Can you name any one?— I can. 6461. Will you name him?— James Duffey. 6462. Where does he live?— At Aughagh, in the barony of Granard. 6463. Upon whose estate ?— The late Countess of Ross's. 6464. Can you name any other ?— I could name several upon referring to notes and memorandums. 6465. Have you those notes and memoranda here?— Some of the notes are here. 6466. Was it from the man himself that you heard that he had been forced to register ?— From the man himself; he told me that he would much rather never he upon the register. 6467. IIow did he vote?— He voted for the Mr. Whites; at one time he voted for Mr. Lefroy and Lord Forbes; but 1 am not aware of his having voted for them more than once. 6468. Do you know how he voted the last time?— The last time he voted for the two Mr. Whites. 6469. Was any influence used to make him vote for Mr. Lefroy ?— I asked him to vote for Mr. Lefroy. C470. Were you agent to the estate?— I am agent to the estate. 6471. Receiver of the rents ?— I received the rents. 6472. Having power to distrain ?— Having power to distrain. 6473. And to bring ejectments ?— And to bring ejectments. 6474. And you asked him to vote for Mr. Lefroy ?— I did. 23 March 1838. 6475. Did you merely ask him ?- come up and vote, 643. I merely asked him before the election to B 2 647^