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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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8 8 Mr. John Young. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE 1832?-! do not think it could: I do not think the house is 20 February 1838. not the house occupied by John From hearing: o in the near it, in valuatkmat aU.^^^ ^ ^^ have you t0 think so ?_ From the memo- randum I took of it upon the spot . o . f. At nimt neriod ?— Since Christmas. X Did you know anything of the bouse in 1832 .- Nothing. 1848. Then how do you know that it is not the Donoghue, and for which he was valued 8 I m the valuation ? that iit was valued in 1832 at 8 /.; I think it cannot be the same house, from the memorandum I took upon the spot, of that house. . , 840 Then it appears you have no other ground to go upon than the cir- cumstance of Mr Lane now reading from the valuation book that it appeared in the valuation book at 8 I. ?- I think it must be a mistake. iS'o Do you conceive that that is a sufficient and conclusive ground for inferring that'it is not the same house, because you hear from another document that that house is valued at 8 /. ?— From the memorandum that I took of John Donoghue's house at the time I valued it, I think it cannot be the same house. 1851. You do not think that you, who went round as one of the valuators in 1833^ could have valued his house at 8 I. ?— Certainly not; from the memoran- dum that I took upon the spot, which I have here, for it is hardly habitable, only one apartment below and two above. 1852. Mr. Serjeant Jackson^] You do not think that a tenement that pre- sented to you such an appearance last Christmas, could have been of such a value in 1832 as to warrant the valuators to value it at 8 I. ?— It could not. 18.53. Do you think they would have been warranted in valuing it at 5 /. for the purpose of taxation ?— I think hardly. 18.54. Mr. Beamish.} Did you notice whether there was a shop in this bouse ? — I have no memorandum of it. 18,5,5. Do not the houses in Barrack- street vary very much in value ?— Yes. 18.56. You say that the house of John Donoghue was valued at 8 I. ?— Yes. 18.57. ( To Mr. Colburn.) And the same name appears upon the register of November 1832 ?— It does. 1858. ( To Mr. Lane.) The valuation you speak to took place in the spring following the registry of 1832?— Yes. 18,59. Mr- Serjeant Jackson.] Are not the houses in Barrack- street nearer to the bridge, of a better description than those further on ?— There are some very good houses further on, and some very bad ones near the bridge. 18G0. Whereabouts is this house?— It is after you pass the old barracks. 1861. Are the houses in that part of the street where that house stands, in general substantial houses ?— I cannot say. 1862. Mr. Beamish.] Are not there houses immediately above that letting for 101, a year?— The good and bad houses in that street are mixed. 1863. Are there not houses above and below that house, on the opposite side, that let at 107. a year ?—" Yes. 1864. Mr. Serjeant Jackson^ Do you think this house ever could have fetched a rent of 8 I. a year?— I do not think it ever could; but, at any rate, not for a number of years back. • MZ' ]{ eamish-~\ You are not satisfied in your mind that the valuation given by Mr Lane is the valuation of the same house that you have now spoken of t— No. 1Q « 6" il, is the Same that is registered?— I believe that it is. . !, 7" , ihfn luny can >' ou ^^ ce to the registry of the house, and yet not trace Z V^ atl° n ; h° w do ) rou know that it is the same house out of which the man registered, and yet not know that it is the valuation?— I do not know whether it is the registered. re A sfer'ed^ 16 T I ™ t° i ^ know.^ iether * ** the same house out of which lie legistered .-— 1 do not know ; it might not be 1869. Then, in fact, the house you are giving evidence of the house out of which he registered ?- It might not ^' I^ Z^ Z^ t0rf:- YoUtt^ Did visit the house of Francis Curtin , of Wisdom's lane, Since Christmas last5 " Did you value it ?— I did. same house that is in the same bouse out of which be now. might not be - I did. 1872. What is the value of it r— Its present value is not more than 41. or 5 a year;
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