SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 81 ^ 20 February 1838. Of '^ ir > rk tT that y0? W0Uld PUt UP° n * f0r tbe purposes Mr. John Young. of taxation, but what the landlord can get for it ?— No; if I was looking at it as a valuator, I would not value it at all; I should not think it was of sufficient value 1635. ( lo Mr. Lane.) Do you find that house in your valuation ?- I do not find any such person as Thomas Welsh. 1636. roM, Co^,) Do you find Thomas Welsh upon the register r- Thomas Welsh, shoemaker, Barrack- street, city of Cork; house and shop at Barrack- street; householder, 10/.; registered the 12th of November 183* Voted 1832. 1637. ( To Mr. Young.) Did you value the house of Charles M'Carty in York- street, since Christmas ?— I did. ' 1638. What description of house is it ?— A very poor house, and in very bad repair. 1639. What is the highest value you put upon that house ?— I think the highest value of that house is 6 /. per annum. 1640. Would you value it for the purpose of local taxation?— I would hardly value it at all for the grand jury; I might value it at 5 /., but I do not think I would value it at all. 1641. Did you go into the house ?— I did. 1642. What does it consist of ?— I have no memorandum of what it consists of. 1643. Chairman, to Mr. Colburn.] Do you find Charles M'Carty, of York- street, upon the register ?— I find Charles M'Carty, publican, York- street; house in York- street; 10/. householder; registered the 17th of September 1833. Voted 1835, 183/. 1644. ( To Mr. Young.) Could that house have been worth 10 /., in your judg- ment, in 1833 ?— I do not think it could. 164,5. Was it at any time worth that ?— I cannot say that; but I do not think it was. 1646. Mr. Beamish.] Did you examine the premises thoroughly?— I did. 1647. Did you go into his house ?— I did. 1648. And you do not, think it could be worth 10 /. at any period ?— I do not think it could; or, at least, not in 1833. 1649. You are not aware of the rent the man pays for it ?— No, I am not; it is in very bad repair. 1650. Mr. Serjeant Jackson, to Mr. Lane.] Do you find such a person as Charles M'Carty, in York- street, in your valuation ?— I do not find that name; but though I do not find him here, I see that I have marked him in my book here as valued between 10 /. and 15/. 1651. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] When was that valuation?— In 1828. 1652. Will you see whether he has continued to be rated?— I cannot say the house ; I have only the original name entered in 1828 in this book. 16.53. you know whether that is the house he registered out of?— I am certain that I must have found him in the collector's book as rated at that. 16.54. Have you the books here to enable you to see whether that is or is not valued ?— i have not. 1655. You do not know whether he may have shifted from one house to another in York- street ?— He must have occupied some of the houses that are at present marked in some other name. 1656. Then does not that show that it cannot be the same house that Mr. Young has valued?— It was in 1828 rated in another name. 165- Mr Beamish.] Is it not the case that many of the names appearing 111 the valuation of 1823, and the names appearing in 1832 upon the registry, have changed half a dozen times since ?— As an example, for instance, I find here a house entered to William Delaney, and at summer 1836 it was occupied by C. Clayton. 1658. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Did you value the shop 1 Daniel Manley, of Shandon- street, since Christmas ?— I did. 1650. What value did you set upon that ?—£. 5 per annui , it is only a gate in the street, and a coal- store, and a small room m which he lives, at the back of it, and it is in the worst of order. 1660. ( To Mr. Colburn.) Do you find Daniel Manly, of Shandon- str. set, 1ipon the register?— I find " Daniel Manly, shopkeeper, Shandon- street, city of Cork; shop ^ Shandon- street; householder, 10 /.; registered 23d of November 1832. Voted 1832, 1835, and 111 1837. , 1661. To 0.46. M of a person named