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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 31 ^ man of the proper county and by and before the assistant barrister or chairman, Mr.,/. c. Bernard. by the said Schedule ( A.) to this Act annexed authorized to register voters for such city, town, or borough, upon giving to the clerk of the peace a notice of 7 February 1838. his intention so to do in the form herein provided." This refers to all registra- tions subsequent to 1832. 442. And it does provide that it shall be in the form contained in the sche- dule ?— I think it does for subsequent registrations. But, in point of fact, it has not been done. Whether it is, that from its being in the disjunctive it is con- strued to be sufficient to give the place, I do not know. I did not attend the registration, and I do not know how the objection was taken. 443- You have seen the notices given by the clerk of the peace?— Yes. 444. Do not they specify the place?— They specify the place of residence, and the place out of which he votes, and, generally speaking, the name is the same for both. 445. Mr. M. J. O'Connell.] Is not the list of the clerk of the peace an accu- rate copy of the notices ?— It is not a full copy, but it precisely conforms to them. _ 446. Chairman.'] How many parishes are there in the city of Cork ?— The city of Cork contains seven parishes, and I think in the liberties there are 11 or 12 portions of parishes. 447. How many parishes or parts of parishes do you suppose are contained within the Parliamentary boundaries of the city of Cork ?— I know there are seven in the city, and I heard it asserted at a meeting of the county that there Avere 11 or 12 parishes in the liberties. There are two at least of the parishes in the city which run into the liberties, where they may have been included. 448. Then there are portions of 15 or 16 parishes, you conceive, included within the Parliamentary boundary of the city of Cork ?— I should think there are. 449. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Were you rightly understood to say that under this heading here, " Description of property, with name of barony, townland, parish, street, 01* denomination, or place where situate," the party coming to register in giving his notice frequently gives the name of his place, which may be a fancy name, but that he likewise often gives the name of the townland as his place of residence ?— Yes, not referring to it as a townland, but stating it as his place of residence, and the place where his property is. 450. Mr. Curry.'] Can you state that, within your experience, any freeholder or leaseholder was ever permitted to register who did not mention the townland or barony, or other well- known denomination in the county, where his residence was situated?— I did not attend the registration sessions, and therefore I cannot tell what occurred there; but I find upon the list persons Avho state as their residence and the place where their property lies, names not connected with the parish or townland. Mr. James Lane, called in ; and Examined. 451. Chairman.] ARE you treasurer of the corporation of the city of Cork ?— I am treasurer of the city of Cork, not of the corporation. 452. How long have you been treasurer ?— Since the year 1820. 453. By whom were you appointed?— By the magistrates of the city of Cork. 454. Are those magistrates arising out of civic offices ?— I believe they are all magistrates arising out of having filled civil offices. 455. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Has not every justice of the peace within the county of the city a voice ?— I do not think there are any justices of the peace within the county of the city except the charter magistrates, those that are alder- men and the recorder. 456. Chairman.] Who are the persons who give the orders to collect the money of which you are treasurer ?— I give the orders. 457. Under what authority do you act?— Under the authority of a local Act, made particularly for the city of Cork. „ n , 458. In what body does the local Act vest the authority of levying the re- quisite monies?— The grand jury present the money, and then I applot it. 450. To whom are you responsible?—' To the grand jury. 460. Is yours a situation for life ?— No person has been ever deprived of it. 461. You are not re- appointed by each successive grand jury ?— No ; tney ao no further than approve of the securities. ^ 0.46. D 4
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