SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. sJ7' 24T 5894. In answer to the question, what description of house was it he v, v 5895. Would this description have suited it in 1835?— I do not think it would. I know that houses let there very high, because lodge. are Went maity othm^ per^^ " n* C6 va^ ue'" after the names of 5897. Mr Beamish.-] At the period when this man went to register, do not you suppose the evidence he produced of people in the neighbourhood mus have been as correct as any value that Mr. Young could come tor- 1 think i must have been correct. ,5898. Do not you think that those immediately about him would know pretty well the rent he paid ?— I think they would. F y 5899. Chairman.] Did you see any receipt for the rates?— Not in this in- stance. 5900. Mr. Beamish.] Did you visit the premises of Daniel Leland, of Brock- lesby- street r— I did. 5901. What do they consist of?— I do not exactly know; I have a similar mark to him that I had to the last, " N." 5902. Had he any ground attached to his house ?— It is a. house and ground. _ 59° 3- Brocklesby- street is in the liberties?— It is on the bounds of the liberties. 5904. Did you ascertain his rent ?— I have not set down having done so. 5905. Chairman.] You cannot state what it consists of?'— No. 5906. You cannot tell what state of repair it is in?— No. 5907. All your statement is, that you put it down as being about the value of 10/., but without being able to afford the Committee any of your reasons for making that statement ?'— Nothing more. If I had had the good fortune to have kept my original day- book, I might have thrown more light upon it. 5908. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] If you were called upon to give evidence upon oath before a jury, would you say that it was worth 10 a year ?— I can only give evidence now as it appears in my book; I never dreamed of being called upon to give evidence upon this subject again, and, therefore, these things never rested in my mind. 5909. From your recollection of the grounds you proceeded upon when you attached those several marks after the names of persons in your book, seeing V. and N. after that man's name, would you, if you were upon your oath, swear that the house was of the value of 10/. ?— I would; I should not set it down here if I was not prepared to do that. 5910. Chairman.] But you are not prepared to state upon what grounds you came to that conclusion in this case ?— No, I am not prepared. 5911. Mr. Beamish.] Have you turned your attention a good deal to the value of places in the liberties ?— I have. 5912. Can you state generally as to the value of the premises of those per- sons who are registered as 10/. householders in the liberties ?— I should think there can be little or no doubt as to the value, generally speaking, of the liberty voters ; they are a substantial good set of voters, 111 my opinion. 5913. Do vou consider them a better class of voters than were prior to the Reform Bill ?— Decidedly. 5014. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] When you say a better class of voters, do you mean a class of voters that are more favourable to the Liberal interest ?- No; but as to the value of their premises and general character. ^ 5915. Chairman.] Why do you say they are a better class of voters now than they were before the Reform Bill ?- I put them 111 comparison with the poor free- men and the 40 freeholders. , UhprtiM of the 59,6. You mean to say that these city of Cork, are in your opinion superior to the freemen ana a ~- 9^ 7 By the freemen," do you mean the whole body of freemen, or any par- them or the ,0 , freeholders a very respect- able class of the constituency ?- They are . he lowest class we have. 0.46. 8111 2 Jj y Both