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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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Mr. Henry Barry 8 March 1838. 23 8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE TIIE rS 18 He is a man of fair character ?— I should think so, decidedly. 5810 Suppose lie had given this evidence with respect to this person : " Did you value the shop of a person named Daniel Manley, of Shandon- street, since Christmas ? I did. What value did you set upon that ?—£. 5. per annum ; he lias no shop, it is only a gate in the street, and a coal- store, and a small room in which he lives at the back of it, and it is in the worst of order ?"— It is singular that our evidences, if taken just now, would have been so contrary. 5820. At what time did you see it?— At the time I stated before, subsequent to the election of 1835. i < 5821. When you saw it, did you consider him possessed 01 the entire house ? — 1 cannot say,' but I have set it down as " value ;" I am not prepared to go into particulars ; I have " S" against his name, which leads me to conclude that I can speak to the value. 5822. When you see there " S," it enables you to say that you must have been satisfied that it was value for 101 a year ?— Decidedly. 5823. Are you able to state whether, when you made this estimate, you con- sidered him as" the owner of the entire house, or only of a part ?— I am not pre- pared to answer that now. 5824. Suppose the fact were as detailed in the evidence of Mr. Young which has just been read, would that alter your judgment of the value?— Decidedly not now; the premises might be different at the time that I valued them and when Mr. Young valued them. 5825. Having heard that evidence read now, have you any reason to assign to the Committee for saying that he held more than Mr. Young states ?— I have no reason. 5826. And what Mr. Young says may, for aught you know, be all true?— At my inspection in 1835 it is not probable that I could have been mistaken. 5827. If the facts had appeared to you, as they appeared according to the evidence of Mr. Young, probably you would not have held it of the value of 10/. a year ?— It would depend upon my inspection at the time. 5828. Chairman.] Is the Committee to understand that you valued that occu- pation of this man's in Shandon- street at 10/. a year in 1835 ?— Yes. 5829. And not in connection with other premises, but simply the occupation in Shandon- street ?— I am not prepared to go into particulars as to that. 5830. Supposing lie lived elsewhere, but still held those premises in Shandon- street, would that in anyway affect your evidence as to the premises in Shandon- street ?— I should not be biased by his living elsewhere; I should satisfy myself by the premises I saw 011 the spot. 5831. Then in the evidence you now give, you allude entirely to the premises he occupied in Shandon- street, without alluding to premises which he might have occupied in another part of the city ?— Decidedly. ,5832. V as he then a coal- dealer ?— I have no recollection whether he was a coal- dealer or not. 5833- What is he down in your book?— A shopkeeper. 5834. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Is that derived from your observation of his dealing as a shopkeeper, or from finding him registered as a shopkeeper ?— I think from finding him registered as a shopkeeper, because I have not set clown here the qualification or the trade of the persons in this book. 5835. Are you able now to state whether, in arriving at the result which led you to write down S. after his name, you were influenced by the circumstance of the payment of rates being ascertained to be unquestionable in your judgment, or by inspection of the premises?— By inspection of the premises, and I, there- fore, did not question the payment of rates. In many streets I went to, I did not ask about the rates, because 1 had no doubt of their'being paid. . 5836/ Yo" are certain that the judgment you formed was from your own inspection of the premises ?- By my own inspection of the premises. p » 37- But you cannot now tell whether that was an inspection of the entire edifice, or merely part ?— I cannot say. 5838. Are you certain that that man really lives in Church- street ?— I am not aware ; 1 do not know where lie lives. 5839. Mr. Beamish^ Are you aware that Shandon- street and Church- street street. 11 an° ther?~ I am a ™ that Church- street runs into Shandon- 5840. His
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