ere 4, SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. sJ7' 24T With their own money, of course, not paid forth headed 1,1 makinK out this statement, No Did he sanction its accuracy ?— Yes; I understood so. He gave me a printed list first, and then I had the names copied from that, and searched the poll- books, and ascertained the period when they voted. 5794- Then, in fact, it was upon the list of persons appearing not valued in the city books, that you formed the list that you delivered in ?— So I understood from Mr. Lane. 5795- It was Mr. Lane that gave you the list?— It was. 5796- And you merely appended to the names when they voted ?— It was Mi- Lane that gave me the list with that heading to it, and I marked out when they voted. J 5797. Therefore he is responsible for the accuracy of their appearance or non- appearance upon the city books ?— Certainly. 5798. Mr. Serjeant Jackson, to Mr. Barry.] With respect to this person, would it not strike you as extraordinary that he should be found as a person exempted from the rates, and not having been valued either in 1828 or in 1833 ? — I think it very strange. 5799. Are you able to say whether what you saw was his receipt for the city rates ?— For the rates for the city. It was the local rate that all persons paid. 5800. Do you mean that it was the receipt of one of the city collectors?— I am not prepared to say that. It purported to be from one of the rate collectors of the city. 5801. Mr. Beamish.] Can you state whether it was a rate- collector of the city or of the liberties ?— I am not prepared to say, but I have him down here as in the city, in Bandon- road. 5802. Did you visit the house of Daniel Manley, in Shandon- street, who was mentioned in answer 1G58?— 1 did. 5803. Did you ascertain whether he was liable for rates ?— I put him down " unquestionable," as to rates, and he had value. 5804. What made you put down that word " unquestionable" ?— It was one of those streets which did not lead me to doubt that all houses I visited were rated, and I did not go more minutely to ask about the rates. I had not an idea til at such a thing would be questioned. 5805. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Did you go into his premises ?— No. 5806. Did you look at them ?— I looked at them. 5807. What did they consist of ?— I am not prepared now to say. I chd not go into any premises in Shandon- street. 5808. Are you sure that this man possesses more than a gate in the street and a coal store, and a small room at the back, in which he lives?— He must have had more when I visited him, to give a value of 10/. 5800. Chairman.] You prove the extent of the premises which he had, by the rent which he stated himself to have paid ?- Not by the rent which he stated himself to have paid; but my own knowledge must have been brought to bear UP? 8io You cannot give any account of what the premises were?— I cannot. fsii. Mr. Serjeant'jacksol.] Do you know Mr. Young?- I do, by meeting him here. 5812. You have no other knowledge of him?— No. 813. You do not know him as a " citizen of Cork?- I knew him, o. passant, Mr. Henri/ Barry. 8 March 1838. that he was a citizen of Cork 5814 A respectable citizen ?- A respectable citizen, m his way. 5815. Do you know anything to ^ parage lum make me think 5816'. He is a man of fair character?—! have heard noxnmg the contrary. . nni: t: cs ?_ That would not 5817. Nothing, except that he differs from you 111 politics . make any difference as to his character.^ ^ 58i8. He 0.46. L L 4