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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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2 4 4 m i n u t e s o f e v i d e n c e t a k e n b e f o r e t he Mr. Benj. Deeble. 7 Mnrch 1P38. a r> 335- ( To Mr. Deeble.) Did you ever hear of such a denomination as that? I cannot say that I did. T 5336. Either in the liberties, or in the city, or in the suburbs?— It is not known denomination. ' r, o7 Mr Beamish.] It may be known m the district, may it not r— It may be known but i do not know it, nor do I think it is generally known. roo8 Do you know anything about this man ?— I think 1 know Fitzgerald. 5339. Do you know the land ?— I think I do; I think he lives on Howard's Hill, or Ardarow. . < 5340. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] How is he registered ?— Ballycarroon. 5341. Mr. Beamish ] Did you ever hear of any denomination of that name? — No, I never heard of any denomination of that name within the liberties of Cork 5342. Seeing that name in the list published by Mr. Colburn, should you have been able, from your knowledge of the liberties, to find out such a man as Bar- tholomew Fitzgerald ?— No. 5343. You do not think you could possibly find him out?— I think I could find any one that lived within the libertiesbut that would be no direction to me to find him. 5344. You never heard the name of Ballycarroon ?— I might have heard it. 5345. Then there may have been a ploughland, out of which this man may have registered, known by the name of Ballycarroon ?— No, I do not think there is; it might have been a fanciful denomination ; the man might have called it anything. 5346. Might there be a known denomination of that name?— I do not think there is. 5347. But you do not know positively that there is not?— I do not know any- thing of that sort positively. 5348. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You know the names of most of the plough- lands in the liberties ?— Yes. 5349. You know them all ?— I know thern all by the names on the treasurer's return. 5350. Ought not the treasurer's return to contain, and does it not contain the names of all the known denominations of plouglilands in the liberties ?— I think it does, 5351. And that is not one of them ?— No. 5352. Nor did you ever hear of it as a known denomination of land ?— No. 5353- Of course neither you nor any man living can say but that some man might take a fancy to call it by that odd name?— Just as well as by Belmont, or Bellevue, or Sally- park, and so on. 5354. Mr. Beamish, to Mr. Colburn.] In all those certificates is not the parish stated ?—" Whenever it is stated in the affidavit. 5355- Giving the parish as well as the denomination of land?— It is not always given; but the certificate is always filled up according to the notice given by the man. 5356. In the notice which was served upon you, is the parish given ?— I can- not say. 5357. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Are you prepared to say whether it is necessary for the party to state the parish in the notice ?— No, it is not. 5358. But in case the party should state the parish, you would state it in the certificate ?— Yes, if he should state it in the affidavit. 5359- ( To Mr. Deeble.) You are examined now with a view to show the dif- ficulties which stand in the way of parties that might be disposed to check and investigate the claims of persons who were desirous to be registered. Now would it afford the slightest facility to a party who was desirous to examine and check tlie right of a person claiming to register, that he should afterwards, when he came to register, make an affidavit, stating the parish ?— No, I do not think it would m the first instance ; it would be after- knowledge. 5360. lt would be " the day after the fair," according to a common Irish pro- verb?— Yes, it would. r 5361. Mr. Beamish.] But if the parish were stated at the time of the notice, would not that be some clue ?— It would, of course ; it would bring it within a smaller compass. 0 5362. ( To
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