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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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s e l e c t c o m m i t t e e o n f i c t i t i o u s v o t e s , i r e l a n d . sj7' 24T I have4' HaVe y° U ,0° ked tbr0Ugl1 thG affidavit3 ° f the 40 freeholders ?- 5215. ( To Mr. Meagher.) In the list you gave in, there were two persons of he name of John Corkery and John Buckley John Corkery app ars^ by vour list to have registered the 1st of January 1836, and to have E I/ S election, upon the fourth day of the election. John Buckley reared upon the 14th of November 1832, and voted at the last election. No. Ton Tie fourth day. Now these appear to be two of the persons who were absolved from paying the rates laid on in spring assizes 1837. Are you aware that those ner- sons must have sworn, at the time of voting, that they did not owe more than half a years rates?—" Rates, if any." Those, I believe, are the words of the affidavit. 5216. You think that those words " if any" being introduced into the affidavit give an opportunity to persons to vote at the election, whose taxes, though really due, were remitted in the manner you have described ?— I do not think that they were really due, because, if I pay the taxes of a man, or my proportion of them, they cannot be due of that man. 52 17. But then the individual had rated, and they had been due by him till the grand jury absolved him, and put the burden upon other inhabitants ?— Yes. 5218. And you consider that that individual is enabled, by virtue of those words " if any," to vote at the election, although he had been in that manner absolved from the payment of rates ?— Yes, because I believe what the affidavit says is, that not more than six months rates are due. Mr. Benjamin Deeble, called in; and Examined. 5219. Chairman.'] WHAT are you ?— I have several occupations; I occupy a good deal of land, and I have been collector of the city rates for the liberties and one assizes for the city. 5220. For how many years?— About 17 years for the liberties. 5221. Are you still collector ?— No. 5222. How long have you ceased to be?— I was presented at March 1819, and I ceased at Juty 1836, for the liberties; I was presented for the division of the city in July 1836, and I have ceased altogether since. 5223. The last time of your acting as collector for the liberties of the city of Cork was in the spring of 1836 ?— Yes. 5224. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] You were collector for the north liberties?— I was. 5225. You are possessed of a good deal of land within the liberties ?— Yes; I have about 350 acres in the liberties, and 150 in the county. 5226. You are very well acquainted with the space that is comprehended within the liberties of the city of Cork ?— I think I am. 5227. From the time of your appointment in 1819 to be a collector, till you ceased in 1836, had you been constantly acting in your capacity of collecting the rates half- yearly from all the rate- payers within the liberties of the city of Cork, on the north side ?— Yes. . 5228. You had nothing to do during that time with the space which lies m the suburbs of the city ?— Not up to that period. r , . 5229. Your labour was confined entirely to the portion to the north ot the suburbs ?— Yes. „ . . ,, ,, 5230. Were you appointed at any time collector of the rates m the soutli liberties?— Yes, in March 1832. .5231. Did you then continue to act as collector for both the north and soutli libe/ oo2 Wha ® is the extent of those liberties?- There are about 22,455 acres in the north liberties, and I suppose something under that 111 the south; I dare say there are 40,000 altogether.. . t OT1 j naT) jch Fort 5233. Chairman.] Is all that space between the River Lee and D^ l£ rt, and so round by the red line marked in the map you now W 1: n join hand, the northern liberties r- No, the suburbs are out of that; the suburbs aie marked 234a Then atfoXtTthTthe River Lee, and beyond the yellow line, and within the red line, is called the northern liberties .'- Yes. Then 0.46. H H 4
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