23 8 minutes o f e v i d e n c e t a k e n b e f o r e t I Ie ivr c Jackson to Mr. Besnard.] Have you any observation to - r f : whose indentures are IXedCe, but the young man I have mentioned; I beheve Vhere is but one other vouneer son, who is in America. . . 4925. Is the book you now produce, the book in which the enrolments are ma4026~ Hwine searched in that book, do you find any other son of Sir Anthony Perfier have looked in the index, and I do not find any other. 4027: Chairman, to Mr. Meagher.] Have you any other objections to make coming under this head?- I have to state against the council that they refused the freedom to Robert Morrogh, bound apprentice to David Tuckey. 4028. Was David Tuckey an attorney ?— He was. 4020. And not a merchant ?— No; Robert Morrogh was bound apprentice to David Tuckey in the city of Cork on the 26th of June, a gentleman v cer and public notary, for the term of seven years, from the 13th of March 1819, ihc day of the date of the indenture. David Tuckey died before Morrogh finished his time, and this individual was transferred to Exshaw and Kift, and then this transfer was regularly enrolled according to the rules of the corporation ; yet the council at the expiration of his time refused him his freedom. 4930. What year was that in?— After the year 1826 they refused him his freedom. 4931. Did you complain of his non- admission?— I complain of his non- admission. 4932- ( To Mr. Besnard.) Have you any explanation to give of this ?— I do not know anything of the circumstance but by report, not having been town- clerk at the time; but the council, I understand, acted under the advice of the recorder, who was of opinion that the apprentice of an attorney was not entitled to his free- dom. There had been instances in which it was done some years ago, before Mr. Wagget, who is the present recorder, had become so, but upon his becoming re- corder he expressed it as his opinion that attornies' apprentices were not entitled to be admitted to the freedom, and the council acted upon that. 4933. Then, the council, in rejecting this claim, acted under the recorder's advice, whose opinion was to the effect, that an apprentice to an attorney had 110 right to his freedom, though he had served a proper apprenticeship? — So I under- stand. 4934. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Has that opinion been acted upon in the common- council ?— It has. 4935. Have there been many other applications by persons claiming in right of apprentices to attornies ?— No, very few, because it is very few attornies' appren- tices who serve seven years; five years is sufficient for professional purposes, and very few persons would consent to serve two years additional for the purpose of becoming freemen. 4936. But there have been other instances ?— I think I recollect others. . 4937- Has it ever occurred within your knowledge, that any person under those circumstances, having served to an attorney, has been admitted as a freeman ?— One ; that was before Mr. Wagget was recorder. 4938- But not since the present acting recorder has held the office ?— Not since, to my knowledge. 4939- Are you able to state the date of the last admission under those circum- stances ?— I do not know, but I think Mr. John Sweeny was the last. 4940- ( To Mr. Meagher.) What is the next instance you wish to mention?— Richard Gould served his apprenticeship to Samuel Lane, a merchant, and his indentures were regularly enrolled, yet he was refused his freedom by the corpora- tion subsequent t6 the servitude of seven years; the enrolment appears upon the book ; and after the expiration of seven years an application was made, and he was retused. His indentures commenced from the 20th dav of September 1819. ( Mr. Hesnara.) 1 have only to say, I know nothing of it, and never heard of it till this moment. ( Mr. Meagher.) The next is Anthony Uvedale ; he was bound appren- tice to John Fitzgerald, the deputy- postmaster; I believe that is no trade, and he uas admitted a freeman as the apprentice to a deputy- postmaster ; he was admitted a freeman on the 28th of November 1818. ( Mr. Besnard.) I find in the book that he was bound apprentice to John Fitzgerald, deputy- postmaster of the city of Cork, for seven years, from the 26th of September 1811. 4941. Do