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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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. ,46 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. being situated in Francis- street ?- I do not think it is in Francis- street for Richard Gould. Fraifcis street runs at the back of the North Friary, and it terminates in the New- road • and this is a large area or yard just at the termination of it, and we March 1838. it aown in our valuation- book as Francis- street . tVint' premises he registered out of. 4387 Mr. Serjeant Jackson^ How did you find that out r- We found that he had left the place between the election and* our having visited it; and we inquired of the neighbours what rent he paid, and we were told 13?. a year. 1388. What neighbour did you inquire of ?— Whoever we saw m the place. 4389. Surely you do not pin your faith to every thing you hear ?— No ; but we had our own observation. 4390. Did you see anybody that you knew ?—]\ o. 4391. What had you that enabled you to know the rent he paid?— We were shown the place, some stabling concern. 4392. But your seeing the place would not tell you the rent he paid?— We inquired the rent. 4393- Whom did you inquire of?— Whoever we saw in the nearest place. 4394. Did vou know anybody that told you the rent he paid ?— We did not know the man personally, but we inquired of the next person we saw; we were shown the places he registered out of; he left the place three months before. 4395. Surely you are too much a man of the world, and too much a man of business, to take the word of anybody you may happen to meet with for a fact of that description?— We got the best information we could, and that was coupled with our own observation ; we were determined to get the best inform- ation we could. 4396. Mr. Beamish.] And you took every pains to inform yourselves ?— We did. 4397. And that, coupled with your own observation, satisfied you that the premises were worth 10 I. a year ?— Yes. 4398. Mr. Lefroy.] The pains you took to ascertain the value and the rent were such as you have described in the course of your evidence ?— Yes. 4399. Mr. Beamish.] Did you visit the house of Thomas wO'Brien, Maxon- square, mason, 894 in Mr. Lane's table ?— I did. 4400. Do you find him in the valuation- books ?— I cannot trace that house in the valuation, for they change tenants and names so often, and the original names remain in the books. 4401. What do you consider to be the value of the house ?— He pays 10/. a year: we saw his wife in the place, and she told us so; it is quite contiguous to the butter- market, and I have no doubt that she told us the truth. 4402. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Are you acquainted with that woman?— I never saw her before, but I have 110 doubt that the house is value for that. 4403. Mr. Beamish.'] Did you visit the house of James Toomey, Cove- street, smith, mentioned in answer 2011 ?— I did. 4404. Can you state the value of those premises, in your opinion ?— James Toomey pays 71, a year ; expended 20 I. upon the house; thinks he would get 12 /. a year for it; I have no doubt it is worth 12 a year. 4405. Chairman.] When did he expend this 20 I. ?— I do not know; since he took it; he has been living there many years. 4406. Two years, or four years, or six years ?— I cannot say; I have no doubt it is worth 10 a year. 4407. Mr. Beamish.] Did you visit the house of Thomas Regan, Hughes's- lane mentioned in answer 2021 ?— We did ; Thomas Regan, Hughes's- lane, it is valued m the city- rate books at 6 I, and 10 I. 10 s. is the rent he pays for it; it was valued by the supplementary jury at 6 ; we were informed in the house that the rent paid is 10 /. 10 6-., and I have no doubt it is quite correct. 4408. Seeing that house valued at 61, a year in the valuation- books, and paying 10 I. 10 s., do you conceive there are many other houses in Cork similarly cir- cumstanced ; that is to say, which are valued in the rate- books at 6 /., and nay- tng 10 guineas rent ? A vast number ; I really do not think there is a sounder household constituency in Ireland than we have in Cork. 4409. Mr.
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