/ SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. , ^ j / J / j / f/ 187' to Mr. Richard Gould. in.' and your answer is " We would, just the „ 6? buT ^ ed over reds of houses worth 10/. a year " ?- I think I may stick to that 4240. In so doing should you consider that you, as a valuation juryman had acted according to the instructions of the Act of Parliament ?- I concede that you put that 2 Marcb l83*- we acted, as all previous juries did, without any exception, and as grand iuries had sanctioned; and as a proof of it, although our valuation was very lenient as regards the poor houses, there was not an assizes since, that the grand iuries did not exempt a great many of those that we valued. ' 4241 - Did you visit the house of Thomas Buckly, of Rochwell- lane men- tioned 111 No. 726 of Mr. Lane's table ?— We visited that house. 4242. Did you examine the premises ?— I did. 4243- Can you state whether it is of the value of 10/. a year?— I think the man may lawfully have sworn to that, and I will state my reason: we found it a very large house, I believe four windows in length in front with ground- floor of course, and an upper floor with a fine pleasant southern aspect, and a well of spring- water in the back- yard. We found that his two tenants paid him 4/. I, 5Ad., and, valuing his own part at 6/., it makes 10/. 15.?. 4d. It has a fine pleasant southern aspect, although the approach to it is bad and there is a well of spring- water in the yard, which must add to the value of it; but upon the whole I conceive that the man may very lawfully have registered at 10/., he paid 4/. a year, and expended 40/. upon it. 4244. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] What value do you set upon that well of spring- water ?— It is worth at any rate 1 /. a year. 4245. What degree of value do you add to the house in respect to the aspect? — It certainly adds to the value; it has so very pleasant an aspect. 4246. How much do you think the man could swear to additional value for the aspect ?— I dare say it adds another 1/. to it; it is in a poor part of the town, but it is a better description of house than I expected to have seen there. 4247. How many apartments does the man himself occupy?— I do not know; we found him in bed, in the lower part of it; he is a watchman, and we found it in very neat order. 4248/ Has he more than one room in his own occupation ?— He has, certainly. 4249. How many ?— I cannot say. 4250. Are you sure that he has more than one?— lam quite sure he has. 4251. Did he tell you so ?— He either told us or showed us, I presume. 4252. Why do you presume that?— He valued his own part at 6/. a year; he took us out into the back- yard and showed us the well. 4253. Did he get out of bed to show you the well?— I think he did. 4254. Are you sure that he got out of bed to show you the well of 1 /. value t — He did not value it at 1 /.; he came out, and went into the back- yard with us. . , , . j 4And showed you the well?— He showed us the well in the back- yard. 4256! You are sure that he got out of bed?— To the best of my opinion lie did ; I am almost sure that he got out of bed; the reason that we found him in bed was, that he had watched the night before : but, altogether I satisfied myself that the man may register for 10/. value, although another person might not give 10 /. a year for it; but 1 do think myself he may lawfully have registered as a 10/. householder. , , , ,, 425^ ' c « » .] You say his lodger, pay 4 I 15 4 J ; now what would vnu deduct from that rent >— I think the last day I satd 25 per cent and I think that I wTrate liberal; I think if we adhered to 25 per cent., , t would be a very fair allowance. ,] W n vpar rather and the it ! S ^ Mr- Serjeant Jackson that you saw that were valued at 10^ l^ ued at 10 /. and registered worth 10/. a year, as 4260. Better than some of those that were Yes; we 0.4^. found in our peregrinations some houses not we B B 2