m 1 0 / SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND in Cork ?— I cannot say that in a constituent nf ^ nnn rupt householders, but I do not know it 7 4' ^ may n0t be Cor' osS' T?" krVV I1° 5? StanCf ° f housel^ clers being corrupted ?- I do not 3868 Then how , s , t that it has become so essential for the priests to interoose to guard them, as you say, against the tempter ?_ In the libc^ ie uhic exS out of the city, the landlords of the ground there are all Conservatives and there are sub- agents who tempt many of them. ' them aL Y° U d° 1101,1,6311 ^^ " ere tempters to bribe 3870 Although they are such an incorruptible body ?— There are some of them poor, but the great body of them are incorruptible. 3871. Then there are some of them that are corruptible ?— I think in a lar^ e body you will always get bad and good, but the great majority are very aood indeed ; I wish they were all like them. " J 0 3872. Was it only to those few that were corruptible that you found the priests' attentions were paid ?— When it became general, everybody was there. 3873. You found the priests applying their influence to the whole body?— Yes. 3874. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] Was there any corruption of those people at tlie last election ?— I do not think there was. 3875. Was there any attempt at corruption among that class of voters?— I do not think there was. 3876. Then what was the necessity for the priests' interference, the tempter not having gone abroad?— To prevent the landlords keeping them at home from voting; many of the landlords wished to keep them at home, and the priests went and told them to come forward ; many were wanted to be kept at home, and many were wanted to be sent away from the place. 3877. Do you know any instance of a person being sent away, or being kept away?— I heard that there was a party that were driven from post to pillar the entire of the election ; kept out of the town. 3878. Do you know that instance of your own knowledge?— I do not know it myself, but I heard and believe it; I had an inquiry set on foot, but when the election was carried by a large majority, I ceased to pursue it. 3879. There was nobody in Cork more active than you were?— No. 3880. And you were likely to hear of such things if they existed ?— That was the reason I heard it. 3881. From whom did you hear it?— Some man came and told me; it was at a saddler's, upon the Parade, that they had four or live jingles, and that they took those people towards Passage one day, and towards Blarney another, to keep them out of the town, to prevent their voting. 3882. Who told you that?— I cannot say now, but it was at a saddler's upon the Parade ; but having gained such a victory, I did not trouble myself further about it. 3883. Was it the landlords that were driving them about in this way?— No ; the agents of the landlords use their exertions to prevent many men coining up to vote. " 3884. But you do not know a single instance where that was done ?— Yes; I believe Carnegie's agent used his influence to prevent men from voting. 3885. Do you know any instance where that was done ?— I believe it was done. 3886. Do you know any instance where it was done? — No; but I remember Carnegie having the market open for payment, and several of the people said to me " Mr. Meagher, arc you come to get your whack?" They were all round his door and he was calling them in, just'as if they had been so many head of cattle. 3887 Do you know any instance of any man being kept away as a voter."— 1 think that circumstance shows that they must have been paid for something. 3888. Do you know any instance where a man kept away his tenants from voting ?— No ;" I do not know myself; I might know, but 1 cannot immediately bring t0 Q88q' Do you recollect that you ever did know an instance of any landlord keeping away tenants from voting at the last election ?- Yes; 1 think tnere were some of Mr. Smith Barry's tenants kept away at the last election. 3890. Do you know one instance in which the landlord did keep awaj a tenant?— I cannot bring to mind immediately. knowledge of an 3891. Do you now recollect, that you ever had in your mind a knowledge instance ?— I am almost sure of it, but I cannot Hnn. ediateyrecolect You were asked whether, at tne election 01 z Mr. D. Meagher. 28 February 1838. 3892. Mr. Beamish.]