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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. , ^ j / J / j lanes and passages; there was an archway over this, and another over Harper's ane; and I waited upon the Wide- street Commissioners and represented to hem the advantage it would be to allow a current of air to pass through those narrow- passages. They coincided with me; they valued the premises and STittd^ Tl^ ™ ' % ^ mean § ™ - de less 3514. Is that what enables you now to say that you have a distinct know ledge of what he stated at the time of the registry in 1832?— I was at the registry in 1832 ; I knew Barry very well, and the opposition to his vote makes me recollect the circumstance. 3515. Do you recollect whether the value of his premises was questioned in 1832 ?— It was. 3516. Chairman.] Is not Barry rather an eager partizan ?— Barry has always voted in the Liberal interest. 3517. Is not it a proof of somewhat eager partizanship, when a man says he will not tell the truth to a person of a different political opinion ? No'; his objection was, fearing that they wanted to bring the house under taxation ;' for Mr. Young had been upon the valuation, and he was obnoxious to people upon that account. 3518. He put them up too high, did he ?— No ; but they valued the very poorer order of houses which former valuators had passed by. It grew out of political feeling, for every seven years was the period for a new valuation ; but a complaint was made that parties had registered that did not contribute to the city taxes, and in consequence of that the supplementary valuation was ordered by the grand jury, and Mr. Young was one of those supplementary valuators, whose duty it was to value such houses as were not valued before, but not to visit any of those that the former valuators went to; and by this means a number of houses were brought in for taxation that never were taxed before ; the general opinion was, that it was done through political motives. 3519. When was the first registration?— In October 1832. 3520. When were the orders given by the grand jury ?— I think a year or two after that; I knowr it was after the registry of 1832. 3521. A wreek, or a month, or how long ?— I think it was within a year. 3522. Your attention has been always directed to the valuations at different periods ?— It has. 3523. Are you quite clear that it was after the registration that those orders were given for that supplementary valuation ?— Yes. 3524. What was the general character of Mr. Young's valuation in that sup- plementary valuation; was it a just valuation, or did he put them up too high ? — I think he valued houses that other parties did not consider ought to be valued. 3525. He took many in, which other parties had omitted?— Yes. 3526. Upon the whole, did he make his valuation beyond the real value of the premises, or did he make it at about the real value of the premises?— He was only one of a good number, and that supplementary valuation was considered as having brought in houses that the other would not have brought in. 3527. In your opinion, was that supplementary valuation a correct valuation, upon the whole ?— I should not think it was correct, because he brought in per- sons that had merely improved their premises between that and the former valuation, and for that he charged them additionally; and I stated that to the grand iury, and I got those parties afterwards exonerated. or28 Then altogether you think that valuation was rather too high?— 1 cto not know; I did not look into the scale of valuation; I thought it was rather extraordinary that the supplementary valuation should be ordered at that parti- cular time, not waiting for the time to run out. ^ 29. Is it your belief, that the supplementary valuation by Mr. \ oung, and other persons at that time, was a fair valuation, or that it ^ as genm^ y spe^- ing, too high ?— I did not look into the scale at all; 1 presume they valued upon the principle of the former ones. . , f] • k 3530. Taking the principle of the former ones as their criterion do youthmk that the house? and other premises were properly valued by Mr. Young^ and his coadjutors upon that occasion r— I think they; were valuedL upon. 3531. Do you think it was a fair scaleThe former valuators rn^ e aUo* ances upon the poorer kind of houses that they did not upon others^ but 0.46. x
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