Mr. D. Meagher. . ,46 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE chairman 1 What is the value of the premises?— He is put down here at 6 I but I refer to Mr. Gould for information respecting that. M' Serjeant Jackson. ] How do you know that Mr. Young is mistaken 26 February 1838. ^ Xik he says he saw him, and Mr. Gould says he was gone to ^ It appears that Mr. Young was asked this question : « You did not see the owner?'' and he answered, « No"?- But he speaks of seeing the people in the house, and it would be inferred that he saw Madden s family, but they were all gone to America. v o , But you see there is nothing that at all commits Mr. \ oung to a state- ment that he saw this man ?- No, there is not; the impression upon Mr. Gould's mind must have been, that he meant that he saw Madden s family. - 456 Mr Beamish.] Did you visit the house of George Marrell, of Ever- green- street, who is spoken to by Mr. Young, in answer 2122 ?— This man voted for the Conservatives, and I did not visit him. 3457. Did you visit the house of William Barry, of Dublin- street, who is spoken to by Mr. Young, in answer to question 2129 ?— Yes ; he pays rent 6 I. per annum; he sets lodgings; his house is of doubtful value, in my estimation. 3458. Chairman.] Mr. Young, in his evidence, puts the value at 0 /., and that is the rent which he pays ?— It is. 3459. Mr. Beamish.'] Did you visit the house of Bartholomew Burke, of Wis- dom's- lane, who is spoken to by Mr. Young, in answer 2141 ?— He pays a rent of 6 I.; I do not think his house is worth 10 I. per annum. 3460. Did you visit the house of Denis Buckley, of Wellington- road, who is spoken to by Mr. Young, in answer 214/ ?— I did not see him, supposing that to be in the liberties; probably Mr. Barry may be able to speak to his house. 3461. Did you visit the premises of Thomas Buckley, of Rockwell- lane, who is spoken to by Mr. Young, in answer 2164 ?— I did; he pays a rent of 4 I. per annum ; he laid out 40 I.; he has two lodgers that pay him 4 L 15 s., and his own apartments. He has good value for 10 I. 3462. Chairman.] When did he lay out this 40 I. ?— He must have laid it out within the last three or four years, I presume ; the house is in very good repair; he is a watchman of Mr. Wise's, and it is a very central good place for lodgings. He was in bed when I went to see him, and he sat up in his bed, and spoke to me. His house was in very good order. 3463. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] How many rooms has he in his own occupa- tion ?— Three. 3464. Are you sure that he has three ?— There was the room below stairs that we looked into ; I think there was partitioned off it the room that he was in bed in; and I understood that there was another apartment that belonged to him that he did not set. 3465. Mr. Young says, that it is " a very good poor man's house, consist- ing of two rooms up stairs, which his wife told me were let at 10 d. a week each, and two rooms upon the ground floor, which he lived in himself;" are you sure that there are more than that number of rooms in the house ?— Yes, there are, certainly. 3466. How many are there in the house ?— I suppose five or six. 3467. Are you prepared to say positively there are six apartments in that house ?— I did not go upstairs; but, judging from the lower part, and the breadth of the house, I should say there are six. 3468. Are you prepared to say that there are ?— I am not; but the man satisfied me as to the value, and seeing its situation, and the order it was in, I was satisfied of the value. 3469. Are you prepared to say that there are more than two rooms below stairs ?— I think there are. 3470. Are you sure that there are more than two rooms below stairs ?— I cannot positively say that, but I think there are. 3471- Can you take upon yourself to say that there are more than two above stairs ?— No, I could not, but from the breadth of the house, and looking at it outside, I presume that there are. 3472. Then you cannot take upon yourself positively to state that Mr. Young was mistaken when he stated that there were but four rooms ?— No, there might have been but two rooms over that space, but they must be very commodious 3473. Supposing