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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

28/03/1838

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First Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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» . ,46 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. D. Meagher. 2G February 1838. all the persons who had voted 111 183/, man uie uuu succ^.- imu,^ uuu were entered in the city rate- books as of low value, because I thought it likely that those houses would be questioned, and therefore I was resolved to visit th( ^ i6 So that you went to all the houses in Blarney- lane that were not valued at 10/. in the valuation- books, the occupiers of which voted in 1837 ?- 1 ^ 21-. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Suppose this is a true description of those pre- mises " It is only a gate in the street and a coal store, and a small room, in which' he lives, at the" back of it, and it is in the worst of order ;" would you say that that was a tenement worth 10/. a year because it stood in Shandon- street ? — If the ground was extensive, I think the ground alone would be worth it, without the building at all upon it. 3218. You have stated that you did not visit this house, because you con- sidered that there was no house whatever in that street that was not full value for 10/. a year; now, supposing this to be a true description of this elector's premises, " It is only a gate in the street and a coal store, and a small room, in which he lives, at the back of it, and it is in the worst of order," would you say that that was value for 10/. a year, merely because it stood in Shandon- street? — It may be. 3210. Would you say it was?-— I think a coal store on ground sufficient, if the coal store is above ground, would be worth 10/. a year, 3220. You have no idea of the dimensions of this place ?— I have not; but I refer to Mr. Henry Barry for that. 3221. Then you can give 110 testimony to the Committee respecting the value of this tenement ?— I cannot; but Mr. Barry visited the house, and he has it down in 1835, because, after the election of 1835, there was a petition to this House, and Mr. Barry made himself master of those circumstances. 3222. Have you read Mr. Young's evidence as to that?— I have not parti- cularly, because it gave me full occupation from morning to night to write out these memoranda. 3223. Have not you read Mr. Young's evidence?— I had not time to read it, but when I came to a particular name of a house I read that; but then I found there were many other things in the examination, and those I did not read; I only looked at the number, that I might be able to refer to the names in my own book. 3224. I11 order to see that, were not you obliged to read the questions ?— No; for instance, in answer 1604, if I found the house was set down as of a certain value, that was quite sufficient for me; then I found that that question extended into half a dozen others, and I did not read them. 3225. Mr. Beamish.] Did you visit the house of Michael Kenny, of Great Britain- street, who is spoken to by Mr. Young in answer 1088 ?— This man does not appear to have voted since 1832, and I did not visit him. 3226. Did you visit the house of Denis Leary, in Boyce's- street, who is spoken to by Mr. Young in answer 1( 390 ?— I did; the ground- rent is 1/. 1 . v; the tenant pays 7 I. Others can speak of the value in 1835 ; it is not now value for 10 L, 111 my opinion; houses have depreciated between the registry and this time. 0 J 3227. Did that man vote in 1837 r— lie did. 3228. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Then that man's tenement is worse than all support ) 0U losing to .'- He is not a man whose value I would tJn ™ Tft? Whfn l ™ Visite1( 1 him >' ou considered his tenement as worse than an} of those to which you have attached a value of 10 /. ?— Certainly. thW T"? he occupied ?- No; when I found the tlimg was not worth 10 /., I immediately passed it over stri\ 31; noken5tT^' lrDv y° U ^ ihe house <) f Sullivan, in York- street, spoken to by Mr. Young in answer 1705 ?- He pays a rent of five guineas;
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