/ j r SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. ,3, saw the situation, and ascertained the value, and satisfied our own minds and Mr z> u a came away when we had convinced ourselves that the house was Wt Zue ^ 2994. Was it he that told you he paid 80/. ?- He, or some of his family February l8 s. 2995. Did you see any document or receipt ?— No, I did not 2997. You are sure you saw him?— I saw him, or some of his family - No y° U SUr6 WhiCh ^ ™ 5 Whether { t was he' or some of his family ? 2999. You have no idea whether it was a man or woman that told vou I have not. : 3000. Or an adult, or a child?— No; I have satisfied my mind as to the value, so as to speak to the Committee. 3001. Had you ever his word for it?— I do not recollect indeed; but I must have had either his or some member of his family, and have satisfied myself, from the value of the premises, for I never, in any instance, wrote " value," or " good value," except when I had satisfied my mind of the value. 3002. Do you know his wife ?— I cannot recollect. v 3003. Are you acquainted with any of his family?— No. 3004. How can you be sure that you had it from some member of his family ? — By the words I put down in my book. 3005. Have you any memorandum of this ?— I have. 3006. Will you look to that memorandum, and see whether it informs you from whom you had information about the laying out of 801, r— I will. [ The Witness referred to his book.] " House, concerns, and ground; good value for 10?.; built it, and laid out 80/.;" that is the memorandum I have in my book. 3007. But you have no memorandum whether you saw the man ?— No. 3008. Nor from whom you had that information:— No. 3009. What is the profession of this man ?— A shoemaker. 3010. Had you any acquaintance with him before you went to see his house ? — No. 3011. Would you know him now if you saw him ?— I am almost sure I would know him, because there is scarcely a man in that neighbourhood that I do not know; but, as to a particular recollection of this man, I have not any. 3012. You do not know his character ?— No ; I never looked into the character of the men ; I know that all the men that live in that neighbourhood are indus- trious men, and men that are very comfortably off. 3013. Why should all the men in that neighbourhood be industrious men ?— Because it is remarkable for being the dwelling- places of the men that work in the merchants' cellars of Blarney- lane, and the people that work in the mer- chants' cellars are better off, from the provisions that they get from the merchants, than the people in most other neighbourhoods. 3014. You consider that all the people there are respectable and industrious and truth- telling people ?— No. 3015. What is there in this particular locality that stamps his testimony with value ?— Knowing the opposition that was given to the registry of that voter, I am convinced that he must have satisfied the barrister; and then I take thai in conjunction with my own view, and I think that quite sufficient evidence of the value. ^ 3016 Then you found your evidence to this Committee, m some measure upon the circumstance of this man having been opposed at the registry, ano satisfied the barrister ?— Not in the first place, but I mention that to show to the Committee that he must have had at the time he registered, in 1836 103OI7! UYOU were understood to say that the circumstance of his having beer opposed at the registry, was one of the ingredients thait satis! ied your mind Mr. Martly having had more time to inquire into it and ^ s^^ ed lus qualification, I feel convinced that he must have had value orhewouUI not have allowed him to register; but without reference to established the fact that I can state to the Committee, that there is ^ alue 103oi8yeHow is it possible for you, having no definite the house, or whether there is even an up- stairs, and no ^ l5 wh<* Uer you ever saw the man in your life; how is it that you are able to say now that t^ 0.46. s 2