in consequence of the loss of fees to him, and in consequence of the sheriff of Antrim gaol, offering him a situation in Antrim gaol worth 400 I. a year; which he declined for the purpose of staying in Dublin. Does he enter into security ?— He does ; in the sum of 1,0001, to the gaoler. Do you know what salary the gaoler of Newgate in London has P— 800 I. a year. Does that include all the fees and emoluments of the keeper of Newgate here ?— I believe so; I believe it is a fixed salary. Do you know how it is, that by the return to Parliament, the gaoler's fees ap- pear greater than they are ?— At that time, the gaoler of Newgate had the rents of rooms, and fees on traversers, and fees on prisoners discharged; those have all been cut off by law. Do you know how many assistants the gaoler of Newgate in London has ?— Fourteen. What number of assistants are therein the Dublin gaol?— Five now, directly under the gaoler, and two in the hospitals; one lately dead, whose situation is not filled up. Are there not nurses in the hospitals ?— There is a hospital keeper in each hospital. WThat number of prisoners can the gaol of Newgate in Dublin contain ?— It does contain 300, but it ought not to contain more than about 140. Do you mean males and females both ?— Yes ; I mean all classes of prisoners. Is there any classification of prisoners in Newgate ?— There is \ but not the classification that is desirable ; there is a classification between males and females, and there is a classification among the males of four classes; but among the females none. Do you conceive it possible, in the present gaol of Newgate, to carry the pro- visions of the Gaol Act into full effect?— It is quite impossible; the inspectors general have effected much in the way of classification. What is the daily average of committals for the last three months in Newgate ?— I should say eight every day. Does not the law direct, that the convicts should be removed when under sen- tence?— The late Act of Parliament does. Is that done?— It is not provided for yet, it directs the Lord Lieutenant to do so ; it is under consideration; the Act passed only last session. In consequence of such non- observance of the existing law, is there not a very considerable charge imposed on the public, as well as great inconvenience to the officers of the prison ?— Yes. Are you acquainted with the penitentiary of Grange Gorman- lane ?— I have visited it. At the time you visited it, was not a considerable portion of it unoccupied ?— Yes. Do you not conceive the transmission of the convicts from the Dublin prison to Grange Gorman- lane, would have the effect of carrying the existing law into effect, and relieving the prison of Dublin from very great inconvenience?— I do decidedly; and I am clearly of opinion, that transportation directly after sentence, would tend much to lessen crime. Are the convicts clothed ?— They are. How often?— They are now clothed while in prison, and they are always clothed when going away. At whose expense is that clothing?— The last time they were clothed, it was at the expense of government. Are they always clothed on going away, whether they want it or not ?— They are always clothed on going away ; I have received a reprimand, for letting a citizen, a convict, go down in his own clothes. It has been stated, that the making of clothes out of old blankets, is productive of expense, and obliges the grand jury to order new ones in large quantities ?— I should think it was productive of no expense at all, because the blankets of which the clothes are made are completely useless, as blankets, in point of cover at night; the expense of making those clothes, is not more than two and sixpence a suitj and exclusive of that, it gives a portion of labour to one of the penitentiaries, which is very much wanted ; the quantity of blankets used is not so extraordinary as would appear, when I state one fact, that the blankets used in two years amounted to 243 pair, and the number of persons admitted, and of course accommodated during that time, amounted to 3,649. It has been stated, that in Michaelmas 1819, the charge for blankets exceeded 549. X a thousand P. R. Gamble. v i; ' ( 9 May.)