• ON THE LOCAL TAXATION OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN, 319 DID NOT THE LEGISLATURE, WHEN THEY COMPELLED THE CORPORATION TO PAY CERTAIN SUMS FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES, RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HELD THOSE TOLLS ONLY IN TRUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS?— NO, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING BROUGHT FORWARD IN THE EXAMINATION; THE ONLY EVIDENCE THAT WAS GIVEN, WAS BY ALDERMAN GALE, WHO STATED, THAT OUT OF A PART OF THE TOLLS THEY USED TO DO IT. YOU WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT RIGHT THAT THE CORPORATION SHOULD RECEIVE THOSE TOLLS AND APPLY THEM TO THEIR OWN PURPOSES, OR TO ANY PURPOSES BUT THOSE ?— I CONCEIVE THAT IF THE CORPORATION PAY THE AMOUNT THAT THE PARLIAMENT HAVE IMPOSED UPON THEM TO PAY TO THE PAVING BOARD, THAT ACCORDING TO ALL USAGE IN SUCH CASES THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE BALANCE THEMSELVES. IF THE WORKS ARE COMPLETED, OR IF THEY ARE SUPPLIED FROM OTHER SOURCES, WOULD YOU CONCEIVE THAT THE TOLLS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE LEVIED ?— I SHOULD CONCEIVE THE TOLLS OUGHT LEGALLY TO BE LEVIED UNDER THE CHARTER, SUBJECT TO THE CHARGES THAT ARE PUT ON THEM, AND THE BALANCE SHOULD GO TO THE CORPORATION. IF THE PURPOSES FOR WHICH THEY WERE INTENDED ARE COMPLETED, TO WHAT PURPOSE WOULD YOU APPLY THE PRODUCE OF THE TOLLS ?— THE CHARTER OF KING CHARLES GIVES THE TOLLS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE MAGISTRACY, AND THE PERFORMANCE OF WORKS; THEREFORE THE BALANCE SHOULD GO TO THE SUPPORT OF THE MAGISTRACY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DIGNITY; AND THE SUPPORT OF THE MAGISTRACY IS PART OF THE PURPOSE STATED IN THE BODY OF THE CHARTER; AND IN THE ORIGINAL SETTINGS WE USED TO MAKE OF THE TOLLS A CENTURY AGO, AND IN SEVERAL SETTINGS, EVEN DOWN TO ABOUT FIFTY YEARS AGO, WE SET THE ENTIRE TOLLS TO THE CITY SCAVENGERS, FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DUTIES OF SCA- VENGING AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LORD MAYOR'S HORSES. IT WAS FOUND EQUAL TO THAT ?— IT WAS; AND THE WORDS WERE, AND THEY PAYING THE USUAL QUANTITY OF CORN TO THE LORD MAYOR; SO THAT IT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED THIS HUNDRED YEARS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE DIGNITY OF THE MAGISTRACY. IN WHAT YEAR WAS THE ATTEMPT MADE TO ENFORCE THE TOLLS ?— WE CONTINUED AS LONG AS WE COULD, TILL FORCED TO GIVE THEM UP FROM THE OPPOSITION WHICH COMMENCED IN THE YEAR 1813, AND WE CONTINUED TO COLLECT THEM FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS AFTER THAT. THE TOLLS NEVER WERE GIVEN UP AT ANY PERIOD ?— NO. BUT THE COLLECTION WAS OBSTRUCTED IN 1813?— YES. THEN TO WHAT PURPOSES HAVE THE WHOLE OF THOSE TOLLS BEEN APPROPRIATED SINCE, AND PARTICULARLY THAT PART WHICH WAS TO GO TO THE PAVING BOARD; TO WHAT PURPOSES HAVE THEY BEEN APPROPRIATED SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PAVING BOARD ?— FROM THE TIME OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PAVING BOARD, WE ANNUALLY APPROPRIATED THE SUM OF 2,200/. TILL THE TOTAL STOPPAGE OF THE TOLLS. THERE HAS BEEN A TOTAL STOPPAGE OF THE TOLLS ?— YES. THAT WAS IN 1813 ?— IT WAS BEGUN AT THAT TIME. YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO A LEASE MADE OF SMITHFIELD MARKET, HAVE YOU ANY OBJECTION TO STATE THE PARTICULARS OF ANY OTHER LEASES WHICH HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE CORPORATION OF DUBLIN, THAT YOU ARE ACQUAINTED WITH ?— THE LEASE MADE BY THE CORPORATION OF DUBLIN TO HENRY ELLIS, EXTENDED FROM THE PARK- GATE TO LINCOLN- LANE. WHO WAS THIS MR. HENRY ELLIS, WAS HE ONE OF THE CORPORATION ?— NO; HE WAS NOT. HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT?— ABOUT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS AGO. WILL YOU STATE THE PARTICULARS OF ANY LEASES WHICH HAVE BEEN RECENTLY MADE; THE QUESTION REFERS TO LEASES OF LANDS ?— I KNOW NONE OF MARKETS; BUT WITH RESPECT TO LANDS, I TOOK A LEASE MYSELF THE OTHER DAY OF PART OF THE LANDS CALLED CLONTURK. HAVE NOT THEY SOME RIGHTS OF FERRIES ?— YES ; I AM A PART HOLDER OF A FERRY ; I AM NOT THE LESSEE, BUT I AM A PARTNER. YOU WERE LORD MAYOR AT ONE PERIOD ?— I WAS. WILL YOU HAVE THE GOODNESS TO STATE THE MODE IN WHICH HAY AND STRAW ARE SOLD IN DUBLIN?— BY WEIGHT. WILL YOU STATE THE PARTICULARS OF THE SALE, THE MODE OF WEIGHING, AND THE AMOUNT PAID ?— PRIOR TO THE YEAR THAT I WAS LORD MAYOR, ALL HAY CAME INTO THE MARKET ON CARS, CONTAINING FOUR HUNDRED AND A QUARTER, THERE BEING AN ACT OF PARLIAMENT THAT NO CAR, COMING INTO THE MARKET, SHOULD CONTAIN MORE OR LESS THAN THAT QUANTITY; BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WERE IN THE HABIT OF PUTTING ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY CALL A DOUBLE LOAD, WHICH SOLD AS TWO LOADS: WHEN I WAS LORD MAYOR, I WITH THE WISH OF MANY OF THE FARMERS, ALTERED THE PLAN, AND SET UP WEIGHING MACHINES, WHICH THE FARMING SOCIETY GAVE TO THE CORPORATION ; WE HAD THEN EACH CAR WEIGHED, ITS WEIGHT REGISTERED AND A NUMBER GIVEN TO IT; THEY PASSED OVER THE WEIGH BRIDGES, AND WHEN WEIGHED, THE CLERK TARED THEM AND GAVE THEM A TICKET OF THE GROSS WEIGHT, THE TARE, : 549- abd J. C. lieresford, Esq. ( 28 May.)