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31/07/1822

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86 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Have those conversations been with reference to the evidence which you were to give here?— 1 believe we have spoken on the subject. Did not Lord Gort, after he had seen your evidence, tell you, " I do not know how you can face the city of Limerick, after having put that down?"— Yes, he did. Was not that the only remark he made to you?— Yes. Veneris, 5° die Julii, 1822. THOMAS SPRING RICE, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Henry D. Grady, Esquire, Called in; and Examined. II. D. Grady, YOU area member of the Irish bar, the Committee understand?— Yes. Es'l- What office do you hold connected with your profession ?— First counsel to the ( 5 July.) commissioners of the revenue. You have sat in the Irish House of Commons ?— Yes. What place did you represent?— The city of Limerick. You also sat in the Imperial Parliament ?— Yes. Have you been long acquainted with the city of Limerick ?— Since I was a school- boy. Have you given your attention to the affairs of the corporation of Limerick?— So far particularly as related to the returns of members for the city, and the right of election. Have you conversed with many old corporators upon the subject of the rights and franchises of the city ?— Very often. Are any of those old corporators, to whose authority you have appealed, now living or dead?—- Most of the old corporators, I believe, are dead. Can you mention the names of any of those with whom you have conversed to the Committee ?— I have often conversed with some of the aldermen ; a person of the name of Serjeant, I remember, Mr. Harrison, with Mr. Hunter particularly, I was Very intimate with him. Was Mr. Hunter a burgess?— He was ; Mr. Harrison had been mayor of Lime- rick, and an officer of the council, and he must have been a burgess; several persons I could mention if I had been apprized of this examination; but at this great distance of time, I cannot exactly recollect; I know there were several persons of the name of Serjeant, and there were also some persons of the name of Russell. Were there any, and what circumstances, which led you to pay a particular atten- tion to the affairs of the corporation of the city of Limerick ?— There were. When did you first begin to direct your attention to the subject?-— My more imme- diate attention, about the year 1795 ; at that time, I believe, I was one of those who suggested the expediency of bringing a writ of quo warranto, for the purpose of trying a question that was agitated a long time, and frequently disputed, namely, the question of non- residence, about that period. Were there any other legal proceedings taken at that time, or within a short time after ?— Within a short time after the proceeding in quo warranto, there were pro- ceedings in mandamus, for the purpose of establishing three rights that had been disputed by the corporation, namely, the rights of marriage, birth, and servitude; which, on the part of the citizens of Limerick, have always been uniformly claimed, • but resisted by the corporation. Do you recollect any proceedings taken about that time, by criminal information, against the magistrates of the city ; against a Mr. Eden Mansel ?-^ As well as I re- collect, I caused an application to be made to the court of King's Bench, for a criminal information against. Mr. Eden Mansel, and I believe against some other city magistrate, for what I considered to be corrupt conduct on the part of these persons so presiding as magistrates, in refusing to allow a registry to take place of persons who came forward to offer their support as freeholders of the city on my behalf; and marking their partiality, as I conceived, by allowing those in the corporation interest to be registered; had I known the nature of this examination before, I could have given anore precise information on this point. Do Appendix ( A.) Mr. Edward Parker. ( 2 July.)
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