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31/07/1822

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ON PETITIONS RELATING TO LIMERICK TAXATION. 39. Have you ever known him employed to certify that a work was well done, the contract for which he had himself?— No, never; if that has occurred, it is un- known to me. Who is Timothy Mackie?— He is a master builder. Does he hold any office in Limerick that you know of?— I rather think he holds some situation under the board of Inland Navigation; but I am not positive. If you were to see, upon the accounts of the commissioners, that he was employed to inspect and report upon the manner in which work was clone, and paid for such report, the contract for which he held himself, would you not consider it highly de- trimental to the interests of the commissioners?— I would consider it out of joint certainly. Have you any recollection of the sum of money paid to Mr. Casey for his expenses for attending in London on the passing of this private bill?— I heard it, but I can- not recollect it at this moment. Cannot you guess it?— I cannot recollect whether it was 500/. or 1,200/.; I be- lieve I was a commissioner about that time, and saw it in print. Who is the treasurer to the commissioners?— They have no treasurer regularly appointed as such that I know of. Who is their acting treasurer?— Mr. Barry is their secretary, and the man through whom the money passes. What office does Mr. Barry hold under the commissioners ?— Secretary. Is it through his hands the whole of the money passes ?— I believe it is ; I cannot answer the question positively, not being a commissioner myself now. Who is it that makes the general contracts for oil, and all those things ?— I be- lieve the general contracts are made with the board of commissioners. Are they always made by public advertisement?— I cannot say indeed. Do you recollect their having ever been made by public advertisement ?— I remem- ber contracts for lighting, by public advertisement, certainly. How long since?— It is five or six years since I was a commissioner; I know that was the plan adopted when I was a commissioner. You cannot speak for the last five or six years ?— I cannot. You state that the corporation, through the sheriffs, have the nomination of the grand jury?— I believe so. Of whom is that grand jury generally composed?— I think it is generally, as far as my recollection goes, composed of those who are looked upon as corporation men. Of the aldermen?— Yes. And burgesses?— Yes. And some freemen of the town ?— Yes. Do those men generally reside in the New Town?— They do. Are they generally men of respectability ?— They are men of respectability. Do you know the usage of any other corporation, of the corporation of the city of Cork, or the corporation of the city of Waterford, with respect to their nomination of grand juries?— No, I do not. Do you not think it natural, that the corporation, or the sheriff, who of course is a friend of the corporation, should appoint a grand jury of his own friends, and of those persons connected with him in his pursuits in the city?— I think it quite natural that he should. Do not you think it would be very strange, if the corporation were to appoint any other as their officers than their friends ?— I cannot think it would be strange, except as regards their practice. Do not you think it would be unusual?— It certainly would be unusual in Limerick. Do you know any corporation that appoints, as their officers, their known oppo- nents?— I am not acquainted with the usage of other corporations. You state that you know of the office of water bailiff?— Yes. But you have never known any thing he has clone for the improvement of the port, or otherwise?— I stated, that I did not know any thing of the expenditure of any of the monies arising from the funds that he receives. But it is obvious that he may have expended money for that purpose, without your knowledge ?— Indeed I think I should have known it, if any money had been expended for the improvement of the port, or other purposes. 617. . Appeudix. John Fisher, jun. Esq. ( 20 June.) It
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