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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON FICTITIOUS VOTES, IRELAND. 111 c 8288. Is that the ground upon which you undertake to say that no objection Mr. Patrick Flo0d was made to his qualification, except want of value ?— I am confident that it - was upon want of value. 8 May 1838, 8289. Are you now answering from your own knowledge, or from hearsay, or from the inspection of written notes and memorandums made by Mr. Col- quhoun ?— I had Mr. Colquhoun's notes, and I returned them, and I have not got them back yet. 8290. Can you state whether you are answering from having been present yourself, and from having heard what you have stated, or from having read it in Mr. Colquhoun's notes ?— I certainly am inclined to think that I am speak- ing from what occurred before myself. 8291. Then you are not sure ?— I will not be positive ; but I think I may safely say that I was present. 8292. Will you say it ?— It would be hard for a man to say positively a thing that occurred so long ago. 8293. Are you able to speak positively one way or another, whether you were present at the rejection of this man or not ?— I wTould be inclined to say more, that I wTas present than that I was not. 8294. Are you able to say that you were present ?— I will not say positively that I was ; I served notice for the man himself to come forward. 8295. You served notice for a great many ?— I did. 8296. How many hundreds ?— I suppose I served notice for 1,000. 8297. At that sessions ?— Yes. 8298. You were a very active partisan ?— I was very active ; I do not con- sider that I was an active partisan in doing what the law allowed me. 8299. Are you not a partisan ?— I wished to establish my right. 8300. Are you a partisan ?— I think not; if I take an active part, I do not think a man has a right to be called an active partisan for that. 8301. Do you know what is a partisan ?— A man that takes a leading part on one side or the other. 8302. Did you do so ?— Indeed I did. 8303. Then you are a partisan ?— I am in that sense of the word, certainly. 8304. Are you a member of the Liberal club ?— I have not that honour at present, as I am out of the county now. 8305. Were you at the time you were doing this ?— I was. 8306. Where do you live now ?— In Westmeath ; I lived then in the county of Longford. 8307. Mr. Hogg.] Were you present when the two Vances were admitted? — I think not; I think they were taken out in Mr. Dogherty's court. 8308. Were they admitted and their neighbour rejected at the same sessions, and by the same registering barrister ?— I think not; I think it was Mr. Fos- berry rejected Read, and the others were admitted by Mr. Dogherty. 8309." In which court did you attend ?— In Mr. Fosberry's. 8310. Mr. Serjeant Jackson^] Will you mention the name of any person who was admitted by Mr. Fosberry, who ought not to have been admitted ?— I will mention the freeholders who were admitted by him: there were four brothers of the name of Heaney; the father made a lease of eight acres each to the four sons, subject to 1 /. an acre; I believe they were admitted by Mr. Fos- berry. 8311. Do you say that they had not value?— I do not; I thought when the man came up he ought to be as good a judge as I could be of the value. 8312. You were asked if you could name any person who had been impro- perly admitted by Mr. Fosberry?— I did not say " improperly admitted," I said with less qualification than others had. 8313. Then there was no person that was improperly admitted ?— I did not say that they were improperly admitted. ' 8314. Then you cannot state the name of any individual who you would allege had been improperly admitted by Mr. Fosberry ?— Indeed I cannot; I would not go upon the lands at all. 8315. Can you state the name of any individual who you are prepared to say was improperly rejected by Mr. Fosberry ?— Yes, Christopher Fitzsimons, of Ballinacross, near Granard. 8316. What quantity of land had he ?— Better than 16 Irish acres. 831 7. What rent was he subject to ?— I think about 38s. an acre. M 2 8310. Are
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