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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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A 80 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr . Patrick Flood, day of the election, and when he came to that part of the oath that he had not voted before at the election he would not go farther. 8 May 1838. g21Q Mr. Curry.] What means have you of knowing that any duplicate certificates were issued upon the occasion of the first registry in 1832 ?— There was another case: a man of the name of Mills had a certificate obtained for him by Mr. Courtney, by reference to the book of the clerk of the peace of the register of the county. When he obtained that, he handed the man's certificate to& a Mr. Reynolds, another attorney. He was an attorney also employed upon the Conservative side. There was a duplicate notice served for the man; and when he came down a good way in the list, and when Mills's name was called out a second time, he demanded a certificate for him. 8220. This person of the name of Mills, his name was twice upon the list of claimants for registry ?— It was. 8221. He came up the first time, was registered, and got the certificate?— Mr. Courtney took out the certificate; he was an old freeholder, and Mr. Courtney, as the agent, took out a certificate. 8222. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] Are you now going to give an account of what happened at the election, or what happened at the registration ?— At the registry, 011 taking out the certificate. 8223. Mr. Curry.'] Mills, when his name was first called upon the list, came up, was registered, and the certificate of his registry was handed to Mr. Courtney ?— Mr. Courtney took out a renewal of the certificate for him ; he did not appear himself; he was an old freeholder. 8224. He was registered upon his former certificate, under the Act of Parlia- ment ?— He was. 8225. He was called a second time when they came to his name on the list ? — Yes. 8226. Did he appear himself in person when called the second time?— No, he did not. 8227. Was he registered the second time also upon his old certificate ?— No, I detected the thing; I appealed to the barrister; I was aware that it was the same, and immediately Mr. Courtney got hold of the document and tore it. When his certificate was called for the second time, I appealed to the registering barrister that his certificate was taken out before, and Mr. Courtney tore the document he had in his hand. 8228. What document?— The certificate that the freeholder used to hold to enable him to vote. 8229. Did Mills upon that occasion get a second certificate ?— No, he did not. The deputy clerk of the peace, Boucher, admitted that there were several dupli- cate certificates taken out. 8230. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.] The question you were asked was, whether you knew of any case Avhere a second certificate had been given ?— I know the case of M'Keon, where it was taken out. 8231. After you had given the account of M'Keon you wTere asked whether you knew any other case in which a second certificate was taken out ?— Mills's would have been taken out if I had not objected to it. 8232. Mr. Curry.] Who was the deputy clerk of the peace?— Mr. Boucher. 8233. What is his Christian name ?— Robert. 8234. Mr. Serjeant Jackson.'] Is he here?— I believe he is not. 8235. Who was by when he told you that?— No one was by but himself and I; I had gone to Dr. Crawford, the clergyman of the parish. I went to Dr. Crawford about some distraint for tithes, and we were talking about the last election, and he said that the registry of the county was in a bad state, in con- sequence of the number of lives that had dropped; and I said there was a number of duplicate certificates, and he said there was. 8236. Was anybody else by ?— Nobody else but Mr. Boucher. Mr. Griffith, the agent, admitted himself that there were several bad freeholders taken. 8237. Chairman.] Are the Committee to understand that that gentleman admitted to you that there were several bad voters put upon the register ?— The deputy clerk of the peace admitted that there were duplicate certificates taken out; but Mr. Griffith admitted that there were about sixty bad votes in consequence of Lady Ross not giving the abatement in time to entitle the tenants to vote. 8238. Mr.
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