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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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82 PARLIAMENTARY [ ^ F i c t i t i o u s votes, Reports, 1837- 8— continued. Rooney, Edward. ( Analysis of his Evidence)— continued. registration, 11187- 11193 Mr. French admitted several of the parties who had been struck off the list by the Committee, 11195- 11208 Cases of John Farrell, Michael Cunningham and Philip Brady, who were registered after having been struck out by a Committee of the House of Commons, 11209- 11258 At the registry each person was called 011 to prove that he was qualified by the solvent tenant test, leaving the beneficial interest altogether out of the question, 11257, 11258. [ Second Examination.]— Evidence respecting the case of Daniel Cunningham, who was struck off the register in 1837 ; quantity of land held by him, and supposed value thereof, 11261- 11298 His lease was set at a lower rent than what he proposed for it, 11293- 11298. 11329- 11342—— Opinion that Mr. White lets his land at 50 per cent. less than its value, 11299- 11316 The property in right of which Cunningham claimed to register, if put up in the market, would set at 20/. a year more than at pre- sent, 11317- 11324 Supposed cause of his rejection by Mr. Dogherty, and evidence thereon, 11343- 11383 Case of Peter Clarke ; quantity and quality of land held by him, rent paid, & c. 11384- 11409. 11433- 11444- Of Lawrence Murtagh, 11445- 11471 Difference in the valuation of Mr. Bracken and witness, 11472- 11479 Quantity of land held by witness, and rent paid for it, 11481- 11487. Case of Cornelius Farrell, struck off by the Committee of 1837; value of the land held by him ; the land is of very fair quality in consequence of the bog attached to it; Gardiner's statement as respects the quantity of the land is incorrect, 11494- 11523 So isColley's, with regard to the quality, 11516- 11531 Several of the farms were valued by Mr. Bracken and witness, and by witness and Mr. Wallace ; the evidence as to the value of which farms would be unsupported, as witness was not summoned before the Committee, 11539- 11570 Received no remuneration for valuing farms; it was made gratuitously, 11555- 11557. 11563 Evidence as to the case of Michael Rey- nolds, who was struck off the register by the Committee of 1837 > quantity of land held by him; quality and situation ; rent paid now and formerly, 11571- 11642 Middle- men exact the utmost rent they can obtain, 11589- 11593. 11626- 11631, So great is the desire amongst all parties to obtain land, that they will consent to pay a rent that will allow them barely to subsist, 11594- 11596 Case of John Chap- man, struck out by the Committee of 1837; quantity of land held by him ; rent paid, 11643- 11656- Names of parties struck off by the Committee of 1837 whose farms were valued by witness, 11657- 11661 Witness heard that the Committee of 1837 ordered that some of those witnesses produced by the Liberal party should not be allowed again to give evidence, 11662- 11669 . Claim of Christopher Cahill was rejected on the ground of value ; an appeal was lodged against the decision of the barrister ; the appeal was tried, but the jury could not agree, and the case was dropped, 11670- 11729 Great majority of the jury were in favour of Cahill, 11729 Pro- duces a lease from Mr. Lefroy to Thomas Cunningham, and examination as to the clauses contained therein, 11730- 1 1765 In valuing land between landlord and tenant, witness has not taken into consideration the value of the tithe, 11766 ' Amount of the tithe composition varies, 11768- 11774. Rooney, Mr. Edward. Papers delivered in by him, and referred to in his evidence, 25 May 1838, App. iii. p. 622- 625. Rooney, John. Longford ; particulars of the property held by him ; rent paid for it; amount of county cess and tithes paid by him; he was permitted to register, 011 the principle that a poor man is a better judge than a rich man of the value of his property, Gardiner 7770, 7771 He formerly paid more rent than he does at the present time, Gardiner 7- 70. 7785- 7789 He formerly held under the middleman, but the new lease at the reduced rent was granted direct from the head landlord, Gardiner 7790- 779' 2- Ross's, Lady, Estate. No instance of Roman- catholic tenants being dispossessed in favour of Protestant tenants; on the contrary, two leases which fell in a short time since were re- let to Roman- catholic occupiers, Courtenay 7266 In no instance has a new lease been granted to a Roman- catholic tenant who has been dispossessed of his property on Lady Ross's estate, M'Gaver 12575, 12576 The tenants on Lady Ross's estate, and who were dispossessed, were intelligent farmers, and better than those put in, M'Gaver 12577- 12585 Further evidence respecting the difference in the condition and cii- cumstances of the persons dispossessed and those by whom they were succeeded, M* Gaver 12613- 12643 Those who were dispossessed of their holdings on Lady Ross's estate held under middlemen, M'Gaver 12620. See also Arrears of Rent. Clearance of Estates. Land, Leases. Rent, Rosse, Dowager Countess of, and Robert Cody. Indenture of lease between, of part of Corry, county of Longford, for one life, at yearly rent of 23Z. 14s., dated 16 June 1837, App. iii. p. 619- 622. Ross, George. Slater, Moriarty's- lane, Cork ; registered for Cork in 1832 ; was valued in the supplementary valuation,, and appealed, and was struck out, Lane 896. Royal
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