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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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58 P A R L I A M E N T A R Y [ Fictitiouff > 7otr0, Reports, 1837- 8— continued. M'Gaver Rev. E. ( Analysis of his Evidence.)— Roman- catholic clergyman, of Carrick Edmund in the county of Longford, H775- H778 No intimidation used by Roman- catholic clergy of Longford to induce persons to go forward to register; the parties were very anxious to register, except in cases where the lease was nearly out, the laud- lord hoiding opposite politics, or they had no lease of some portions of their farms, 117- 9- 11787- Great anxiety on the part of the Conservatives to get tenants and free- holders to register; they have ejected Catholic tenants to make way for Protestant tenants whom they could rely upon, 11788- 11790 Particulars respecting the quan- tity of land held by Thomas Mulvey, amount of rent, amount received for the produce of his land, & c., 11791- 11811 Opinion that the person who gave evidence before the Longford Election Committee, respecting this farm, could not have examined it with any " degree of particularity, 11812- 11821 Case of Michael Galassy, 11822- 11830 — Case of John Sodan, jun., who voted at the election of 1833 on the certificate ob- tained for his father; he voted for the Conservative, 11831- 11849. Witness has frequently admonished his flock from the altar as to the manner in which they should vote, and has noticed those who voted contrary to his advice from the same place, 11850- 11871 Roman- catholic tenants had been turned out to make way for Protestants previous to the interference in politics" of Roman- catholic clergy, 11872- 11875 The interference of Roman- catholic clergy between landlord and tenant has caused the latter to be at variance with the former, 11886- 11893 In- stances have occurred of persons having their seats in the chapel torn to pieces, and thrown into the road, after their names have been mentioned from the altar, 11894- 11899.11904 Landlords who take part in Tory politics in Longford have pledged themselves not to give land to Catholics, 11906- 11908 Great exertions made by the Catholic clergy to put down all secret societies; the bishop has deprived his clergy of jurisdiction to absolve persons connected with secret or illegal societies, 11909- 12023. [ Second Examination ]— Further particulars respecting the case of John Sodan, jun., who voted at the Longford election in 1833, having never registered properly, 12024- 12062—— Of the turning out the Catholic tenantry on Lord Lorton's estate, and sub- stituting Protestants, 12063- 12080. 12384- 12396 The Irish have a better know ledge of agriculture now than formerly; they are improving in their knowledge and industry every day, 12081- 12088 An estate will produce more by being let out in small farms than in large ones, 12086, 12087 Whether the Catholic tenantry who were ejected from Lord Lorton's estate were ejected for nonpayment of rent or non- title ; general feeling of the country that they were turned out because they were Catholics, 12093- 12111 The agent to the estate has often declared his intention to turn out persons because they were Catholics, 12112- 12137 Where Catholic tenantry have been turned out, and Protestants substituted, the Protestants have received no injury, 12143 Number of Catholic families turned from an estate in Cashel; number re- admitted; number of Protestant families admitted, and evidence thereon, 12143- 12227. Some of the Catholics who were turned out received a compensation for their former holdings, 12209- 12214. 12414- Labourers working for persons holding large farms are never so well off as those labourers who hold very small farms, and reason thereof, 12228- 12244 Average rate of wages in Ireland, 12231 Labourers without their food, and without any holdings, can barely subsist, i 2232- 12234 When a person has a farm he has the means of raising labour, 12241- 12244 An address will have more influence by giving it from the altar, than speaking to persons individually; witness lias never interfered with his parishioners, with a view to influence their voting at elections, except in cases where parties were about to take bribes, 12247- 12264 — Inconsistent with the character of a clergyman to engage in the valuation of land, 12265- 12269 Witness is a member of the Longford Electors Club, 12272- 12282. The different parishes in Longford have contributed towards the justice rent, 12284- 12289 Churchwardens were appointed in some of the parishes; their object was to look to the registrations and elections, for the suppression of crime, & c., 12290- 12297 The Roman- catholic clergy preceded their parishioners when going to the poll; necessity for so doing, 12298- 12318. 12322- 12349 Protestant clergy are equally as active on their side as the Roman- catholic clergy are 011 the other; no instance of a Protestant clergyman going in procession with his parishioners ; no doubt they belong to Conservative clubs ; cannot give any instance of it, 12350- 12383 Those tenants ejected from the estate in Cashel were not in arrears for rent; there were not in Ireland tenants more clear from rent than those tenants; some of them obtained compensa- tion, and amount thereof, 12397- 12414 Character of Lord Forbes, 12417- 12420. Till 1832 or 1833 the exclusion of Catholics from holding property was not so general as since that period, 12421, 12422 Longford is a very Orange county, nearly all the lower orders being Orangemen, and all the Protestant gentlemen are Orangemen, 12426- 12433 Catholic voters, if left to themselves, would vote on the Liberal side ; the anti- liberal party is very strong in Longford, 12434- 12437. 12469- 12476 The Hostile spirit of religious animosity is 011 the increase in that county, 12440 The number of ejectments are increasing wherever an opportunity is afforded, 12441 Some
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