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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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40 PARLIAMENTARY [, dfirtitious ' fcTotrg, Reports, 1837- 8— continued. Gardiner. George. ( Analysis of his Evidence)— continued. * o v J Particulars respecting the cases of Farrell and others examined before the Committee in 1837, and given up as not to be supported 011 value, 8018- 8033 Cases that were struck off the register and re- admitted by Mr. Tighe, 8034- 8037 Persons have been admitted to be re- registered on production of their old certificates; no doubt that at the present sessions great numbers of old rejected persons in 1833 will send in their cer- tificates and get them renewed on the same principle, 8045- 8049 Present system of registration is fraught with the greatest evil in encouraging perjury, 8050 Instances in " which persons have been reproved for not swearing to the full extent of the value requisite, and have afterwards come forward and sworn to the full amount and regis- tered, 8051- 8058 Great facilities would be afforded to both parties if the lists were made not only alphabetically but with reference to the townlands or districts, 8059- 8064 The registry at the quarter sessions seldom exceeds two days, 8061. Much belter if a certain time were set apart for the business of registration, apart from the civil and the Crown business, 8065- 8069 Frequent revision of the register is more required than anything else, 8069 At the last election, several bankrupts and insolvents voted, 8070- 8073 Instances in which the qualification oath has been taken by persons, whose title has been lost by the lives in the leases having been dead ; they were prosecuted, but the prosecutions were dropped, 8079, 8080 Much time is lost in getting the voters to repeat the oath in Ireland; regulation at elections, allowing a certain time for each vote, 8082- 8086—— Further evidence respecting the value of Thomas Mulvey's farm, over and above his expenditure, & c., 8087- 8166 Very few small farms, in Longford, upon which- an acre of meadow land can be obtained, 8167 • Nature of the soil on Mulvey's farm, 8168, 8169. Garrahy, Michael. He was allowed to register for King's County, on swearing he had a beneficial interest of 10/. merely above the rent he paid; he registered in October 1836, Kelly 15050- 15053. Geary, Thomas. Coach- globe maker, Douglas- street; registered for Cork as a ten- pound householder in November 1832 ; was placed on the supplementary valuation at 5/; he appealed against the valuation, and was struck out, Lane 851- 854. Gibson, Mr. He would not act upon the evidence of persons competent to judge of the value of land in opposition to the oath of the claimant, Battersby 13867- 13871. 13876- 13880 He would register any man who would take the necessary affidavit, and would, in fact, register persons, though they did not derive out of the land a return equivalent to the rent, Battersby, 13907* His opinion that the franchise ought to be very much extended ; and that such was the intention of the Legislature in passing the Irish Reform Bill, Battersby 13998- 14001 He held that where a party had let part of his land at an advanced rent and occupied the remainder, if, upon taking the whole together, he had a 10/. profit upon the whole, he was entitled to be registered, Kelly 14538- 14540 In his decisions he applied the same principle to both parties, Battersby 14006- 14011, Julian 14949- 14953. The principle which he adopted with respect to registration in point of value, where the qualification consisted of land, was to ascertain the value from the value of the produce of the applicant's farm, Julian 14701- 14709 He never prevented an inquiry into the produce of the land, Julian 14779- 14784 He never refused evidence of possession from the fact of perception of rent; there were cases admitted by him, in which no rent had been paid ( by the applicant to register) to the party who granted the lease, Kelly 15001- 15004 He would not deduct the poor man's labour when expended upon the land from the value of the produce, Kelly 15049 Different modes of ascertaining that claimants were possessed of sufficient value to register resorted to by him, Daly 15152- iol5' 7 He did not admit any claimant who had been previously rejected, without some variation of value or other circumstances being adduced before him, Daly 15556- 15560. See also Inspection of Deeds, fyc. 3. Leases. Occupation. Possession. Registering Barristers. Gill, James. Claimed to register for King's County on a lease granted to his mother, who was dead; he had 110 letters of administration or probate of the will, and consequently was not the personal representative of his mother, Battersby 13939- 13956 Further evidence as to the time he had been in possession of the property out of which he claimed, Battersby 13977- 13982. 13990, 13991 Objection made to his registration was overruled by Mr. Gibson, Battersby 13942- 13945. Gillassy, Michael. Quantity of land held by him; average worth of the land per acre, Clogher 9794- 9801 Further particulars thereof, Clogher 10086- 10102, M'Gaver 11822- 11830 Value of the house and offices, with the land about it, Clogher 9806- 9816 Calculation of the amount of hi3 beneficial interest in the farm; manner in which computed, Clogher 9817- 9824. Glancy>
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