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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

30/07/1838

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Third Report from the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes, Ireland

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\ 52 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. G. Gardiner. 7599. Do you remember how much that sum was for the parish ?— I think about 350/. .# 28 March 1838. 7600. Do you know the rent- roll of the parish ."— It is under various land- lords ; I do not know the rent- roll. 7601. Is the tithe composition 2 s. in the pound of the rent- roll ot the parish — No, it is not. 7602. Is it more than 1s. in the pound of the rent- roll of the parish ?— I think it does not exceed it. 7603. Must not the occupying tenants in that parish have a profit upon their rents, taking them altogether ?— Some of them have not a profit on them, and others have. 7604. Which is the greatest number, those that have or those that have not ?— There is a great number that have not. 7605. And a great number that have?— And a good many that have. 7606. Have any of them bargains ?— Not many. 7607. Upon whose estate is it that they have bargains ?— Lady Ross's is the cheapest estate, and the one that has got the best bargains in it. 7608. Her tenants have a profit?— They have. 7609. Is any part of it Lord Lorton's?— Not in that barony. 7610. Chairman.'] Can you state whether, generally speaking, the value of land in the county of Longford was greater or less in the year 1833 than it was in the year 1837 ; supposing an estate had been to be purchased in 1833, or in 1837, at which period would it have been most likely to fetch the highest price ? — I believe it would have brought more in 1833. 7611. You think, upon the whole, the value of property in the county of Longford was greater in 1833 than it was in 1837 ?— I do. 7612. Without reference to intermediate improvements, but as a general pro- position ?— Yes. 7613. With regard to this particular holding of Mulvy, did he state in his examination, when he was admitted upon the register, any different circum- stances to those which he stated upon his previous examination, when he was rejected ?— Nothing more than that he swore to a higher value. 7614. Was he examined in 1834 as to the particulars of his holding?— He was examined in 1835. 7615. Did he then state particularly the value of his land, and so forth?— He did. 7616. Did he make the same sort of declarations generally in the year 1836 when he was admitted ?— He stated the value of them higher. 7617. Mr. O'Connell.] Did you take down, in writing, what he stated at the time ?— I did. 7618. Chairman.] Can you refer to those notes ?— I can. 7619. Will you turn to any memoranda that you have of the examination of Mulvy in the year 1835 ?—" Thomas Mulvy, of Ballintubber, in April 1835 pro- duced a lease of 10 acres and 8 perches, at 1 /. 4 s. per acre; swore that his father held it before the present time at 37 - v. 6 d. per acre. He was then rejected on value." 7620. Is that all the memorandum you have ?— That is all at that time. 7621. Mr. French.] That would not make a freeholder?— No. 7622. Did he give any evidence as to the value of the houses?— None at that period. 7623. Mr. Lefroy.] Does that note contain everything that passed, or did anything else pass that is not down upon your note. Can you speak from your memory to anything that passed, besides what is in your note ?— I do not know whether anything additional passed as to the value, more than what he stated, that his father had the land before. 7624. Mr. O'Connell.] Was not it your duty to take down the substance of the evidence given in support of the claim ?— Yes. 7C25. Did you do that as correctly as you could?— I did in all cases, and in some cases very long. 7626. Chairman.] Now will you read what passed with respect to this person in 1836?— October 1836, " Thomas Mulvy, of Ballintubber, produced a lease of ! 0 acres 8 perches, rent 1 /. As. per acre. Edward Mulvy says his land is adjoining; that he built none since 1835, but says his premises are worth 21. 5s.
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